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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #103467
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Tell the congregation I'll do the whole book of James and have 'em home in time for the race. thumbup

This has really sparked my curiosity though. I rarely deal with nutsedge taller than 3-4"...could it be there is a broadcast application height limit, much like row crops?? Chances are that's the issue, bigger the plant...the more leaf surface area to be exposed to herbicide, not to mention in most cases after the summer solstice nutsedge has started feeding the tuber...that could be a big contributing factor.

Looks like I found a good summer experiment...

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #103496
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I planted some loblolly pines 2yrs ago and had a decent success. But some of the trees would just start turning brown and die. Could it take up to a yr for them to die from being j rooted?

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #103553
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>>>I rarely deal with nutsedge taller than 3-4"...could it be there is a broadcast application height limit, much like row crops??<<<

Maybe you are on to something there. Most of the chufas that I have killed or damaged have been pretty big, like the ones in the pic above. Please do lots of experiments this summer and keep us informed.

>>>Tell the congregation I'll do the whole book of James and have 'em home in time for the race. <<<

LOL - Sounds great! What have I gotta do in your job besides kill nutgrass? smile

Any of you guys ever heard of Lee Atkins? He wrote an article in Turkey Country's last issue and mentioned growing chufas and gave a post herbicide program. He said to use a quart of 2,4-D with 3 pints of Prowl and 1.5 pints of Select. He included an email address in the article, so I wrote him and asked if he meant to say 2,4-DB, but he never responded. He did specify to apply it with the chufas 4" high. I dunno if he actually grows chufas or is just speaking theoretically. Maybe its some kind of bad luck that I kill them with 2,4-D, but I have never seen it recommended in a publication before reading this article. The NWTF used to include herbicide recommendations with their seed, and it was always 2,4-DB.

Turkey Country had another chufa article in the same issue and mentioned chufa research recently done in SC. I'd sure like to read that, if anyone knows how to get it. Sounded like they at least knew something about growing them; recommended waiting until July to plant to have less weed competition, and also said to rotate fields every 2 years for the same reason. Both of those suggestions are excellent advice, but many of us don't have enough good land to do the rotation, and planting in July would have meant total failure 4 of the last 5 years due to no rain at the critical time.

That article also said to put out 40-50 lbs of N at planting, and then top dress with 300 lbs of ammonium nitrate! That is one heck of a lot of N, and you better have an unlimited supply of $ to follow that recommendation. I top dress with 100 lbs, but won't do that unless it looks like I have a good chance at getting the rain to utilize it. I guess the next thing is gonna be people putting in irrigation systems for chufas. Don't think I can handle that. A good evening to all.


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: poorcountrypreacher] #104119
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Originally Posted By: poorcountrypreacher
Thanks for the ideas. I don't have a wick boom applicator,


On The wick boom I saw a pretty good design that you can make. Saw one for a 4wheeler or to mount of the loader of a tractor which would work the best so you could change the height easily. They were mainly using it to kill sage grass. It was make out of 4in pvc pipe and had a elbow at the end and extended up 6 to 8 in or so witha clean out cap on to so you could fill the pipe with round up. The had cotton rope about 1in in dia that were probably 1 1/2ft long that came out of the botton of the pipe starting at the end and would connect back in and another would come out and so on. I would say the shorter the rope the better it would wick the round up. I think the attached the rope with a nipple fitting and ran the rope through some kinda nut with a o ring in it to keep it from leaking around the rope. hard to try to explain.

on the spray I will ask our chem rep about it.


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: G/H] #104611
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Originally Posted By: G/H
I planted some loblolly pines 2yrs ago and had a decent success. But some of the trees would just start turning brown and die. Could it take up to a yr for them to die from being j rooted?


That is a possibility there could have been multiple other factors that could have caused mortality. How many acres did you plant and what type of site prep. did you do?

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: G/H] #104666
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Originally Posted By: G/H
I planted some loblolly pines 2yrs ago and had a decent success. But some of the trees would just start turning brown and die. Could it take up to a yr for them to die from being j rooted?


Is the site prone to standing water; or just the opposite, very rocky?

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #104684
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Best way to determine if they were J rooted is to dig up the brown and dead ones and see. It is likely to be another cause. Any noticeable insects on the trees?

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #104779
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A few acres probably around 400 trees.Just had an open pasture and planted them with a dibble. No standing water but it is rocky in some places. The place has a crown on it and slopes down a little on 3 sides. This is in southern Tallapoosa county near Macon county line. I did notice they didn't grow much on top of the hill.

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #104814
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Sounds like drought got them. Could have been j-rooted or L-rooted but probably not. You would be surprised what a few feet in elevation on a slope can do to soil moisture.

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: Rebelman] #104867
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Not to mention a hard pan and pasture grass. We herbicide and subsoil at Minimum before planting pines in a pasture.


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #104890
03/10/11 12:28 AM
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OK, fur us idjits ... what's a J-root and L-root?

When the root is shoved into too small of a hole and turns up or sideways?


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: Clem] #105011
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roots are supposed to point straight down. Roots pointing back up are J-rooted, those pointing sideways are L-rooted. Does not necessarily kill them but might and does lead to poor growth and form.


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: gobbler] #105605
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Wow...intelligent, civil discussion. It looks like this is the secret room of sanity on this site. Every time I get back on here and read some threads after a 2-week hiatus, I am quickly reminded why I hadn't logged on in 2 weeks.


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #105606
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Yep, 49er's not in here ...


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: Clem] #105644
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Originally Posted By: Clem
Yep, 49er's not in here ...


And Clem hasn't started anything yet! grin


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And won't! grin

Well, maybe. Did I ever tell you about the Constitution, Bible and wildlife management? It all began years ago when ...


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: Steve Ditchkoff] #105721
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Originally Posted By: Steve Ditchkoff
Wow...intelligent, civil discussion. It looks like this is the secret room of sanity on this site. Every time I get back on here and read some threads after a 2-week hiatus, I am quickly reminded why I hadn't logged on in 2 weeks.


Yea, don't tell anyone else grin


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Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: Clem] #105731
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Originally Posted By: Clem
And won't! grin

Well, maybe. Did I ever tell you about the Constitution, Bible and wildlife management? It all began years ago when ...


sleep

Hopefully it will continue to be informative.

How's things going Doc.?

Re: Wildlife and Forestry management questions answered here. [Re: NightHunter] #106649
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Going real well. Just got back from a tuna fishing trip...and now I feel really old and sore.


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How was the Tuna trip? Wish I coulda made it but too short a notice!! grin


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