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Re: APC second rate increase [Re: Happysappy] #3779016
11/03/22 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Happysappy
Alabama Power has announced its second rate increase this year due to rising fuel cost. Another hit that is directly attributed to the Biden energy policy. I just dont understand how these democrat clowns cannot see what they are doing to the average person.

You can thank Biden.

Re: APC second rate increase [Re: rickyh_2] #3779056
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Originally Posted by rickyh_2
Covington Electric Cooperative also increased their rates. Rate increase from $.0999 to the new rate of $.12208 per kWh!


quit your whining. That's only a 22.2% increase. It's not true anyway. Biden Admin says inflation is only 8.2% so there's no way your power rate increased more than that because we know that Brandon and his administration are always truthful and has a firm grasp on all the economic numbers.

Re: APC second rate increase [Re: abolt300] #3779090
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Lol, I hear you! You made my point. Let’s Go Brandon.

Re: APC second rate increase [Re: Drake322] #3779136
11/03/22 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Drake322
Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by Drake322
APCO is the devil. Mine has went up through budget billing nearly $90/mo since June.


I don't understand how folks think the power company is "The Devil." When they are providing a very important service, they are publicly regulated, they have to pay out the ass for an incredible amount of infrastructure, fuel, constant regulations trying to put them out of business, and at the same time under constant pressure to keep their rates low. The price of energy has gone up waaaaayyy less than the current rate of inflation.

Plus it was government regulation that made the energy companies give up on coal and now just like we knew it would we are at the mercy of the natural gas companies and they can charge whatever they want for fuel.

So if you want to blame some entity, blame ever tightening government regulations on carbon output. That's why prices have gone up. The energy companies are just caught in between.

My cell phone bill is higher than my power bill and the cell phone companies hardly have to pay for any infrastructure, no fuel costs, very little personnel costs, and what do I get for all that money... Oh... I get to put up with spam callers.


I am only speaking from my opinion. They are regulated of course, but for the most part they can do what they want a charge what they want. They are guaranteed a profit by AL state law, period.


Any rate increase has to be approved by the Public Service Commission. The PSC is voted in by the rate payers.

The reason the power company needs to be a publicly regulated company that is allowed to make a profit is because of this:

1. There needs to be a sufficient amount of reserve power output capability.
2. Reserve capability means that when there are heat waves or freezing temperatures that could knock part of the generation capacity offline, there has to be a plant that is idling that can quickly come online to make up the difference.
3. Reserve power does not make a profit while it is just sitting there waiting for an emergency. (It would be like you having a spare truck in case yours breaks down.)
4. States where power companies are not regulated, and it's just a free for all with lots of different power utilities competing with each other struggling to make a dime, they don't have any reserve power. You know why? Because it's not profitable.
5. This is why states like California and Texas that don't have regulated power, can and frequently do have massive blackouts during things like forest fires, heat waves, snow and ice storms, a power plant goes down unexpectedly, etc...
6. The only time your power goes out in Alabama is when the power has been cut to your house or your neighborhood, by an ice storm or a tornado or a hurricane. Pretty rare, but when it does happen it is restored by the linemen pretty quickly all things considered.

Re: APC second rate increase [Re: Happysappy] #3779182
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I work for Alabama Power and I can tell you, they blow money like it’s going out of style. No reason for the increase. Trust me when I say this.

Re: APC second rate increase [Re: J_Martin] #3779251
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Originally Posted by J_Martin
I work for Alabama Power and I can tell you, they blow money like it’s going out of style. No reason for the increase. Trust me when I say this.

Truth spoken. My son works for them and the things he tells me about the money they PUSH him to spend is insane.


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Re: APC second rate increase [Re: Happysappy] #3779372
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And they make millions in profit every year. They raise rates every time they can, drought conditions - oh we have to go up- too much rain - never hear them go back down. TVA sells power up north also. Wonder how much in campaign contributions they give out?

Re: APC second rate increase [Re: J_Martin] #3779533
11/04/22 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by J_Martin
I work for Alabama Power and I can tell you, they blow money like it’s going out of style. No reason for the increase. Trust me when I say this.



I work for the company too and I disagree.

There is going to waste and cost overruns in any extremely large company or organization. Look at companies like Amazon, TVA, GM, Ford, any governmental agency, etc... It's just the nature of the beast. However, speaking for myself and all the people that I know in the company, which is a lot, most of us work very hard to perform our jobs cost effectively and provide inexpensive and dependable power.

And yes there is reason for the increase. If you drove a delivery truck and the price of gas goes up, you have to charge more for deliveries. Simple as that.

Re: APC second rate increase [Re: Happysappy] #3779542
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Likely to be some very expensive coal ash remediation projects coming for them soon.

Re: APC second rate increase [Re: scrubbuck] #3779547
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Originally Posted by scrubbuck
Likely to be some very expensive coal ash remediation projects coming for them soon.


That has already been figured into to the budget.


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Re: APC second rate increase [Re: Skinny] #3779566
11/04/22 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Skinny
Originally Posted by scrubbuck
Likely to be some very expensive coal ash remediation projects coming for them soon.


That has already been figured into to the budget.


There's already a bunch of them underway as we speak. Y'all can thank TVA and their disaster for those costs.

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