Sounds like a good way to get cut out of the will.

According to the OP, you’re a dumbass for saying no caffeine, and damnit if he’s wants to give him caffeine, he’s gonna give him caffeine. Cause by God it’s his house and he’s going to do whatever he dang well pleases. No one has disagreed with spoiling. The OP just thinks he can disregard any rule his kids set if he disagrees.

That’s what I said.

My wife and I don’t need to be told any “rules” by our daughter and son-in-law on what’s best for the grandkids. We have enough sense to know what is. But I’m damn sure gonna spoil them. That’s what I do. But not to the extent that they are going to revolt once they go home. Plus I dare my son-in-law to say something to me and his mother-in-law. We love him but he’s got better sense than that.

But if they asked you to do or not to do something with the kids, would you abide by their wishes?

Folks in my house abide by my rules. Period.

My mother would go upside my head if I told her what to to with her grandkids.

Both sets of grandparents help us with our kids. We’ve tried to establish a schedule with our kids and some ground rules but a little understanding with both parties goes a long way. Just thankful to have grandparents that are able to be a big part of their lives.

That works great until you piss off the parents by going against them and neither them nor the grandkids show up at your house.

This is 2022. Most "parents" these days don't parent. And the "parents" follow my rules too. Don't visit? Then oh well.

If your attitude about not seeing your grandchildren is so nonchalant that your response would be “oh well” then I would imagine you wouldn’t care much to begin with.

One thing I haven’t seen mentioned is this. Does the “my house, my rules” apply for your kids house too? Meaning, are they in charge at their house regardless of how silly it may seem to you? If you say yes, then if your son/daughter beats your grandkid’s a$$ at home, for something you think is totally ridiculous, I’m guessing, by the things y’all have said, that you’d keep your mouth shut, regardless of how much you disagrees or got pissed off, since it happened in their home? Just playing devils advocate. Can’t have it both ways.

YouTube created YouTube kids so they could avoid the legalities around tv advertising. Some of that content is weird and inappropriate; however, is the advertisements you have to watch. They can legally advertise whatever they want to you.

I’m just happy to have family. I’m not trying to control anyone. In the whole realm of our lives, the petty nuances don’t add up to anything. I think it’s better to have a relationship with your blood whether you agree with them or not.

Thankfully Ive got that iron clad POA....

But seriously, there are some uptight folks around. The only thing I worry about is that my mother remembers to feed the kids and doesnt kill them off with her driving skills.

We are on a short vacation with my mom right now. Just wish my boys could have been around my dad. It would have been fun letting him break my rules.

You read in to stuff too much, and paint with a wide brush.

Sure we would.

See that’s the whole point. Most people will, but you’ve got this window licker bama Earl who thinks his chit doesn’t stink and doesn’t need to respect other peoples’ wishes and rules for THEIR CHILDREN.

My Ex-FIL was that live by my rules type of grandparent and the Ex-MIL just went along with him. So now my kids have nothing to do with them. Sometimes you have to let kids be kids.

Here’s a good example SouthBamaSlayer. My 8 year old grandson was addicted to screen time. Phone, iPads and TV. He got addicted due to his attention deficit disorder. Mild case but still has it. It was the only way to keep him still no matter where he was. It was so bad that he’ll zone out everything around him. So a couple of years ago we all started limiting his screen time, especially at night and it has worked. So when he’s at our house there aren’t any TV’s on. We play games or read.

My thought. You can spoil your grandkids but don’t do anything that can be detrimental to their growth.

My fil tried that “my rules” crap on me one time. He used to take my oldest son hunting with him when my boy was about 7-8. I always told him DO NOT ride him on the 4-wheeler. My reason was because my fil was not a safe rider and had flipped the 4-wheeler over several times doing stupid/lazy stuff. One day my son mentioned something about riding the 4-wheeler and I questioned him. Turns out dear old fil was going against the “no ride” rule. I had even told him WHY he wasn’t allowed to ride my son. My son even mentioned how they had nearly flipped one time. I wanted to come unglued but didn’t. I asked fil about it and he took offense. Tried to give me the “he’s with me” crap. So, I told him then “he won’t be with you”. Hasn’t been hunting with him since except for maybe once and that was many years later. Sucks that those memory building chances are gone but HE made that choice. I know this is a different situation than many of y’all are talking about. The safety of a kid versus giving him/her a popsicle or something is two different things. Grandparents still have to follow the rules as long as they don’t go against God.