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Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: hallb] #3719215
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Originally Posted by hallb
seed is the cheapest and easist part of planting food plots in the grand scheme of things. We didn't lime or fertilize last year and just planted like we normally do and our plots looked great and the deer hammered them. Not saying you can get away with it every year, but in a year where stuff is so expensive, axing the fertilizer is where you are going to save the money.



So u just planted without fertilizer?


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Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Shaneomac2] #3719223
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Originally Posted by Shaneomac2
Originally Posted by hallb
seed is the cheapest and easist part of planting food plots in the grand scheme of things. We didn't lime or fertilize last year and just planted like we normally do and our plots looked great and the deer hammered them. Not saying you can get away with it every year, but in a year where stuff is so expensive, axing the fertilizer is where you are going to save the money.



So u just planted without fertilizer?


Yep. That wasn't the original plan, kept telling myself I was going to come back later and fertilize...but as happens, life got in the way and it just never happened.

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725276
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Really? This day in time w all the information out there, there are still ppl that plant Ryegrass?!?!? Geezzz! I guess these ppl are fooled by “green, pretty” fields! I was at Mark’s Outdoors last week and they were selling some BS seed mix w Ryegrass! NO THANK YOU!!!

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: dirkdaddy] #3725285
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Originally Posted by dirkdaddy
Originally Posted by Ben2
If you have planted a field for multiple years it will come backnup in whatever has veen planted in the past. Just mow it down fertilize it and leave it alone by december it will be as pretty as any planted field you have.

This is what I've decided I'm doing this year. May end up buying a bag of crimson clover to toss out with the fert, but gonna let the natural seed bank ride this year. It'll do fine.



Lol that won't work here .

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725358
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Universal sent me their list.

Their 3 way cereal blend is $20/bag
4 way with peas is 21.75
4way with crimson is 22.25
5way with W, O, peas, crimson and rape is 23
6 way same as 5 but add rye is 23.50
7way is same as 6 but add purple top is 24

I did the math and am going with the 7 way plus a 50 pound bag of crimson clover which will be $82.

Their universal brassica is 10.50 for a 5 pound bag, which is way cheaper than anything I have seen.

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Antlerfluke] #3725359
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Originally Posted by Antlerfluke
Really? This day in time w all the information out there, there are still ppl that plant Ryegrass?!?!? Geezzz! I guess these ppl are fooled by “green, pretty” fields! I was at Mark’s Outdoors last week and they were selling some BS seed mix w Ryegrass! NO THANK YOU!!!


That is what they planted on my lease before I joined and during the first year except the fields I planted personally. It's a pain to get rid of it. If I plant some of the WTI no plow, which I think has rye grass in it, the deer eat it pretty well. But it doesn't help me as far as mulch when I cut it in the spring.

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725368
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There’s been many a deer killed over a patch of rye, not sure why all the hate.

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725393
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I like the 7 way, I always have good results

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Forrestgump1] #3725482
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Originally Posted by Forrestgump1
There’s been many a deer killed over a patch of rye, not sure why all the hate.


I was just thinking the same thing. I'm not trying to grow a cash crop, I just want something green for them to eat. Yes, I want to give them the most nutritional food I can, but more importantly, I want it to grow when planted.


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Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725489
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I use to hunt a club n Marengo county - they mostly did rye and little clover - to this day it was some of the prettiest fields I ever seen and I was in that club for a decade - bout best club I ever been in and the deer Hammered the fields and we did not hav to do anything special to plant every year - bush hog - plow - plant - cover w light drag - put out little crimson

Saw more deer there than any club I ever been in - period!!!

I plant mix now but don’t understand all the hate - my results were awesome w it


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Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: HippieKiller] #3725491
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Originally Posted by HippieKiller
Originally Posted by Forrestgump1
There’s been many a deer killed over a patch of rye, not sure why all the hate.


I was just thinking the same thing. I'm not trying to grow a cash crop, I just want something green for them to eat. Yes, I want to give them the most nutritional food I can, but more importantly, I want it to grow when planted.

Yep rye is a staple around here...


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Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725495
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I think there is mass confusion on this site about the difference between cereal rye "Rye" and perennial rye grass.

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: abolt300] #3725508
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Originally Posted by abolt300
I think there is mass confusion on this site about the difference between cereal rye "Rye" and perennial rye grass.


All I can say is if someone doesnt know the difference between rye and ryegass, they need to let someone else handle the food plots. It takes too much money and effort, so do it right and get your money's worth

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725510
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All I know is the deer are wearing out my WTI and durana clover, so I'm going to make sure I supplement that again this year. I figure if I plant a little every year it is the gift that keeps on giving.

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725533
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What WTI lockjaw, noplow

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725683
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We plant rye every year. Cereal rye. You wanna throw out garbage like Marshall rye then be my guest. Just don’t try to bring it to my place.



Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725744
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The most deer I’ve ever had in a field in one time was planted in…. Nothing. We use to hunt the bottoms over looking huge overgrown sage and fescue fields. Deer would be in them all afternoon picking small green weeds that popped up from some mild winter days. All this seed and fertilizer expense talk has me missing those days.

Re: Seed Prices and availability this year [Re: Kelly_123] #3725858
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You can throw-and-mow or you can lightly disk and just throw a 3-way mix on it and walk away. That's not my preferred method but I do it every year in some spots and works just fine. A little starter fertilizer certainly does help but you don't need much and not necessarily a requirement.

Prices are up across the board but my concern in planting is next Spring at this point and if I'm going to be able to plant a Crop. I started back farming on the side this is my 3rd crop year and not sure I am going to be able to afford to plant in 2023 the numbers I am seeing don't make sense for me as I am not that sophisticated of a farming operation but I am no-till. I am worried I'll have a good stand and then get into something really expensive if I get disease or pests. It's not just Fertilizer it's ALL the chemicals.


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