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If you need any more evidence..
#3668691
05/11/22 07:58 AM
05/11/22 07:58 AM
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AU338MAG
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That there is not a dime's difference between Republicans and Democrats. House approves another 40 BILLION in aid to Ukraine by a vote of 368 - 57. https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/10/politics/house-vote-ukraine-aid-bill/index.htmlThat's a lot of money to launder for the politicians families. Meanwhile, inflation keeps on rolling at 8.2 % last month.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: If you need any more evidence..
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05/11/22 08:37 AM
05/11/22 08:37 AM
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AU338MAG
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For a reference, Alabama's passed a record general/education budget this year of 11 billion, roughly 1/4 of the aid package for Ukraine.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: If you need any more evidence..
[Re: AU338MAG]
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05/11/22 08:55 AM
05/11/22 08:55 AM
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Beer Belly
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For a reference, Alabama's passed a record general/education budget this year of 11 billion, roughly 1/4 of the aid package for Ukraine.
Ummmmmmm - you forgot the first $13 Billion that was sent to Ukraine.
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Re: If you need any more evidence..
[Re: DryFire]
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05/11/22 09:24 AM
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bama_earl
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As long as it ends up with Putin's defeat, money well spent. Same, this is money going to a specific purpose that will benefit American if Ukraine can hold their grown. You don't actually have to win to win. Just drag it out forever. I would rather spend this money than all the trillions we blew in Iraq and Afganistain.
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Re: If you need any more evidence..
[Re: AU338MAG]
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05/11/22 09:32 AM
05/11/22 09:32 AM
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Goatkiller
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Yea and since we are so good at winning wars.... starting one with Russia over Hunter Biden's paycheck seems totally appropriate.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Re: If you need any more evidence..
[Re: DryFire]
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05/11/22 09:32 AM
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As long as it ends up with Putin's defeat, money well spent. Most of the money will be washed and brought back home to pay politicians donors and families. That's the purpose of foreign aid.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: If you need any more evidence..
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05/11/22 09:38 AM
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As long as it ends up with Putin's defeat, money well spent. Most of the money will be washed and brought back home to pay politicians donors and families. That's the purpose of foreign aid. Winner winner chicken dinner. This is it exactly.
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05/11/22 10:02 AM
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Irishguy
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I would be up for stopping all foreign aid. Welcome to the Libertarian Party...
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Re: If you need any more evidence..
[Re: AU338MAG]
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05/11/22 10:15 AM
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jawbone
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Personally, I would not give any cash to Ukraine but would more than willingly give them all the military equipment and humanitarian aid (food, water, etc) that they can use. I would much rather spend money to help innocent women and children against an invasion than some of the ridiculous things we spend money on domestically here in our country.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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05/11/22 10:16 AM
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jawbone
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I would be up for stopping all foreign aid. Welcome to the Libertarian Party... I'm not too far off but this and a couple of other issues are what keeps me from being full blown Libertarian. Granted, I would stop a lot of the ridiculous foreign aid, but not all. Why I still prefer the term Independent.
Last edited by jawbone; 05/11/22 10:18 AM.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: If you need any more evidence..
[Re: AU338MAG]
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05/11/22 10:41 AM
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abolt300
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Hears a novel idea. Why "give" any foreign country anything? Especially those countries that have assets. Ukraine is exceptionally rich in natural resources. Supply them with what they need, not cash, but real weapons, with the written understanding that after this is over, we are going to get paid "in full" plus interest, in either hard cash, or from your natural resources. In the case of Ukraine we could be paid back in LNG, mercury, lithium, titanium or whatever. This giving chit to other countries just to be doing it, is stupid on its face. There's only one reason to give another country, that has assets we could use, something for free and that's if you're getting something back, and I'm willing to bet that in almost all cases, it is cold hard, laundered cash, coming back into politician's or their family member's pockets and/or their campaigns. Printing money, devaluing our currency, just to give it away to other countries, is a ridiculous and an unsustainable model that simply cannot continue. Let's use those funds to take care of America and our veterans first, then when we provide aide, make sure we are actually getting something back in return, or have a plan to get it paid back in the future.
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05/11/22 11:02 AM
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bill
Freak of Nature
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Hears a novel idea. Why "give" any foreign country anything? Especially those countries that have assets. Ukraine is exceptionally rich in natural resources. Supply them with what they need, not cash, but real weapons, with the written understanding that after this is over, we are going to get paid "in full" plus interest, in either hard cash, or from your natural resources. In the case of Ukraine we could be paid back in LNG, mercury, lithium, titanium or whatever. This giving chit to other countries just to be doing it, is stupid on its face. There's only one reason to give another country, that has assets we could use, something for free and that's if you're getting something back, and I'm willing to bet that in almost all cases, it is cold hard, laundered cash, coming back into politician's or their family member's pockets and/or their campaigns. Printing money, devaluing our currency, just to give it away to other countries, is a ridiculous and an unsustainable model that simply cannot continue. Let's use those funds to take care of America and our veterans first, then when we provide aide, make sure we are actually getting something back in return, or have a plan to get it paid back in the future. There it is. I'm too busy worrying about the country my daughter is forced to grow up in to give a rats ass what's happening on the other side of the world. We have plenty of innocent women and children right here at home to take care of without trying to police or provide for people 10,000 miles away. I see so called conservatives that are worried that stopping baby killing here might lose them an election but they are just fine sending soldiers, assets and weapons to a country and government that played a big part in the Biden families power and wealth.
"Political debate: when charlatans come together to discuss their principles" - Bauvard
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Re: If you need any more evidence..
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05/11/22 11:03 AM
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Hears a novel idea. Why "give" any foreign country anything? Especially those countries that have assets. Ukraine is exceptionally rich in natural resources. Supply them with what they need, not cash, but real weapons, with the written understanding that after this is over, we are going to get paid "in full" plus interest, in either hard cash, or from your natural resources. In the case of Ukraine we could be paid back in LNG, mercury, lithium, titanium or whatever. This giving chit to other countries just to be doing it, is stupid on its face. There's only one reason to give another country, that has assets we could use, something for free and that's if you're getting something back, and I'm willing to bet that in almost all cases, it is cold hard, laundered cash, coming back into politician's or their family member's pockets and/or their campaigns. Printing money, devaluing our currency, just to give it away to other countries, is a ridiculous and an unsustainable model that simply cannot continue. Let's use those funds to take care of America and our veterans first, then when we provide aide, make sure we are actually getting something back in return, or have a plan to get it paid back in the future. Yeah, that's something that most of us here will agree with but it's simply not going to happen nor will it ever, short of DJT back in the Oval Office and another follow up POTUS like Desantis for 8 years. Even then there's a myriad of hurdles to overcome comprised of mostly Dims and Rinos. I still love this country but as time goes on the flame is growing colder. I love it as it was, not so much as it is.
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05/11/22 11:11 AM
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Zzzfog
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Hears a novel idea. Why "give" any foreign country anything? Especially those countries that have assets. Ukraine is exceptionally rich in natural resources. Supply them with what they need, not cash, but real weapons, with the written understanding that after this is over, we are going to get paid "in full" plus interest, in either hard cash, or from your natural resources. In the case of Ukraine we could be paid back in LNG, mercury, lithium, titanium or whatever. This giving chit to other countries just to be doing it, is stupid on its face. There's only one reason to give another country, that has assets we could use, something for free and that's if you're getting something back, and I'm willing to bet that in almost all cases, it is cold hard, laundered cash, coming back into politician's or their family member's pockets and/or their campaigns. Printing money, devaluing our currency, just to give it away to other countries, is a ridiculous and an unsustainable model that simply cannot continue. Let's use those funds to take care of America and our veterans first, then when we provide aide, make sure we are actually getting something back in return, or have a plan to get it paid back in the future. Yeah, that's something that most of us here will agree with but it's simply not going to happen nor will it ever, short of DJT back in the Oval Office and another follow up POTUS like Desantis for 8 years. Even then there's a myriad of hurdles to overcome comprised of mostly Dims and Rinos. I still love this country but as time goes on the flame is growing colder. I love it as it was, not so much as it is. Amen
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