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Re: Buying land
[Re: doghouse]
#3647661
04/07/22 07:46 AM
04/07/22 07:46 AM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 52,200 Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
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Posts: 52,200
Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
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Definitely sucks but happens all the time. At least you got a notice, I've had friends pull up to gates only to be met by the new landowners handing them their cams and giving them a few days to remove their stuff from the property. Had a friend who was half way finished with planting 1,000 acres last year when the new landowner greeted them (received no notice at all) luckily they were able to take the seed and fertilizer back (new landowner wasn't interested)
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
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Re: Buying land
[Re: doghouse]
#3647674
04/07/22 07:59 AM
04/07/22 07:59 AM
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 15,345 Ourtown, AL
BCLC
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 15,345
Ourtown, AL
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Timber companies aren’t called “Hunting Lease Companies” for a reason, that’s just a nice steady stream of supplemental income. They make their profit from buying and selling land and timber.
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: Buying land
[Re: doghouse]
#3647685
04/07/22 08:14 AM
04/07/22 08:14 AM
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Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,163 B'ham
Goatkiller
14 point
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14 point
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 9,163
B'ham
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A lot of the smaller companies have private equity investors and have to give them a guaranteed return. They can't make money on the wood so they buy/sell.
It will be interesting to see what happens when the economy takes a chit. I predict a lot of fire sales are coming.
No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
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Re: Buying land
[Re: Lockjaw]
#3648240
04/07/22 09:51 PM
04/07/22 09:51 PM
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Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,344 North Birmingham
JustHunt
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,344
North Birmingham
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All Westervelt property is for sale. We lost 100 acres in columbiana due to it being "rezoned". Since it was right next to a lot owned by either a current or former mayor, you can probably deduce what happened there. Then they sold 26 acre's to an ajoining landowner because he built a second house on his property right close to our biggest greenfield, and tried to get Westervelt to tell us we couldn't hunt it, and they basically told him to go pound sand. Funny thing is they could have told the guy no, and let us hunt it another year and he would have paid more $.
They just "rezoned" 80 acres across the road from the former main entrance to our club that is westervelt land, and they have for sale signs posted on all their land on the left side of 70 going from Columbiana to Calera.
What I have been told is they like to sell land for enough to buy double the acreage they sold. We have supposedly 250 homes going in on the 100 acres that was sold. I figure that will be a nightmare for a couple years with trespassing. I’m sure all Westervelt property is for sale for the right price but it’s not actively listed like their Shelby county properties. But they have been trying to sell all their property in Shelby county for quite a few years.
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Re: Buying land
[Re: doghouse]
#3648291
04/08/22 05:27 AM
04/08/22 05:27 AM
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Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,282 lauderdale co
brushwhacker
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,282
lauderdale co
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We log for large timber company. They own close to 200k acres . Its all for sale all the time. The general public just don t know it. There no for sale signs anywhere. Have call them an ask. They have already cleared bout 5k acres for farm land an sold most of it . They just don t need that much timberland. Only one papermill in area an they have wood supply agreement with them for only a small amount of wood. Only cut bout 4k acres a year. Im sure lot other timber companys in same boat. Land sales in my area has went from 2k an acre up to 6k in last two years. Blows my mind the price what some this junk land is being sold for. Most buyers are other states.raw land doesn t stay on market long here. Forever wild bought 6k acres of company land an its in wma now. Too steep to log . If i only knew now what gonna happen with land prices i would have invested in land few years back in stead of ira.
Brushwacker
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Re: Buying land
[Re: brushwhacker]
#3648294
04/08/22 05:33 AM
04/08/22 05:33 AM
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Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 16,825 Banana Republic
jb20
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 16,825
Banana Republic
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We log for large timber company. They own close to 200k acres . Its all for sale all the time. The general public just don t know it. There no for sale signs anywhere. Have call them an ask. They have already cleared bout 5k acres for farm land an sold most of it . They just don t need that much timberland. Only one papermill in area an they have wood supply agreement with them for only a small amount of wood. Only cut bout 4k acres a year. Im sure lot other timber companys in same boat. Land sales in my area has went from 2k an acre up to 6k in last two years. Blows my mind the price what some this junk land is being sold for. Most buyers are other states.raw land doesn t stay on market long here. Forever wild bought 6k acres of company land an its in wma now. Too steep to log . If i only knew now what gonna happen with land prices i would have invested in land few years back in stead of ira. Yep I saw 40 acres here in the middle of nowhere bring 279k couple weeks ago...it's getting expensive and looking good to sell
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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Re: Buying land
[Re: doghouse]
#3648365
04/08/22 07:52 AM
04/08/22 07:52 AM
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Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,282 lauderdale co
brushwhacker
8 point
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8 point
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 1,282
lauderdale co
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Yep i saw 200 acres bring 1.2 million couple weeks ago. Had couple run down houses on it . All fields no timber value. An i live out in the boonies . Some guy from texas bought never set foot on it . I just don t understand what happening
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Re: Buying land
[Re: doghouse]
#3648369
04/08/22 08:06 AM
04/08/22 08:06 AM
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Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 18,925 colbert county
cartervj
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 18,925
colbert county
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A good friend has been in the business all his life. It used to be about timber management and now it’s all about selling land. And prices get more stupid by the day. Most are out of state and think our prices are cheap. He gets calls constantly and the hard part is finding folks wanting to sell. So that increase prices significantly. Another friend wasn’t gonna sell his family land but has changed his mind because of how much folks are willing to pay. He’s got a bidding war going.
This is also a sign of folks with money thinking a big crash is coming.
Land is considered a safe place to park money
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Re: Buying land
[Re: doghouse]
#3648435
04/08/22 10:16 AM
04/08/22 10:16 AM
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Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,901 alex city
oakachoy
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,901
alex city
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207 acres of land with good tree's just sold across from my place. Sold in two weeks for 3800 (I'm told) an acre with a lot of good timber on it. Just glad the guy that bought it is going to use it to hunt instead of development.
WM Hunter "Trump literally sacrificed himself, his family and all of his businesses for this country. He literally is a true American hero. And True American Patriot - warts and all."
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Re: Buying land
[Re: oakachoy]
#3648491
04/08/22 11:33 AM
04/08/22 11:33 AM
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 15,345 Ourtown, AL
BCLC
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 15,345
Ourtown, AL
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207 acres of land with good tree's just sold across from my place. Sold in two weeks for 3800 (I'm told) an acre with a lot of good timber on it. Just glad the guy that bought it is going to use it to hunt instead of development. I’m glad to hear that!
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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