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Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? #3358346
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Have companies shut down?
Is it just supply demand (riots, Biden threatening to take guns, etc)
Is the gov buying it all? (all the capacity)

It has now been damn near a year of ammo shortage.


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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358350
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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358351
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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358353
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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358355
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Just about anything that can go wrong has - all together and at the same time. When the political regime starts imposing its mandates and anti firearm agenda its only going to get worse and more expensive.

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The insider concluded with a statement about the ammunition shortage that will not put the minds of hunters and sport shooters at ease, at least for the moment: “It is not expected to end any time soon. But there is a somewhat universal attitude toward it, and that is ‘Nobody has a crystal ball.’ So, it’s just the situation that we have. It’ll be different in the future.

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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358357
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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: AU7MM08] #3358358
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Originally Posted by AU7MM08
I herd the lizerd people dun bouht it all.


This right here ^^^^.


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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358369
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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358394
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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358414
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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358433
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Everyone buying all they can. No surprise. 2022 til it gets better.


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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358435
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There have been many industry responses to this. This one is from fiocchi.

This year has provided the ammunition manufacturers multiple challenges that never could have been anticipated. We all started off the year with empty warehouses, and zero inventory to provide clients products. We are at the mercy of what can come off the machines daily. This same problem has trickled down to the raw material manufacturers. Manufacturers are now at mercy of what they can provide off their manufacturing processes daily. Now it has trickled all the way down to the chemicals or raw goods that make the component. Nitrous Cellulose is in short supply as powder manufacturers have used up 100% of their stored inventory. This is just one example.

Secondly will still have covid. Covid has Europe at about 50% - 60% production capacity for any materials. Materials in our industry and any other. Not one manufacturing facility can bring back 100% of their people to do the jobs needed. Not being capable of keeping employment extends to the ports in Europe, the shipping companies, all the way down to the janitor. There are extended delays in moving products across the globe at the moment.

Then we have our ports in the US. We had over 20 containers stuck at a port prior to Christmas, upon the NE coast. The permit office had closed due to Covid. Not a darn thing we could do. The office did not re-open until Jan. 18. We are just now receiving some of these containers that held raw materials, and finished goods.

There is a true shortage of ammo, in a time the demand is higher than ever in history. Keep in mind the shortage is caused by many factors. The volume Remington typically supplied the US market is still not there. The volume of imported ammunition is not coming in as normal. There is a substantial lack of supply.

We do hope these challenges do not persist too long, Fiocchi is doing all we can, looking at every angle to improve the situation where we can.


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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358436
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Yall got any for sale at a fair price?

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Also spoke with an engineering firm that is working on specs for equipment to get a primer factory up and running. They are planning on ramping up to producing 5 billion primers a year. I asked them if they needed an angel investor? 😀


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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Big Bore] #3358440
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Originally Posted by Big Bore
Everyone buying all they can. No surprise. 2022 til it gets better.

2022 pffft yeah right...like that's gonna happen.


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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: Beer Belly] #3358498
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It’s going to call for more machinery to produce more ammunition. The ammo scare won’t end until there’s a plethora of ammo repeatedly being put out for sale. My thoughts are it will take atleast another six months for the big ammo companies to up machinery to get that up and going. Second problem you run into is components for components. When powder companies run out of reserve and brass companies can’t keep up with demand it puts ammo companies further behind. I hate it as much as anybody but hopefully everyone in that industry will revamp their operations so that this will be the last ammo scare we have for a while. If you had a way of producing any of those types of components you’d be sitting on a gold mine. There’s probably some investors out there somewhere looking into some of this.

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Originally Posted by Forrestgump1
It’s going to call for more machinery to produce more ammunition. The ammo scare won’t end until there’s a plethora of ammo repeatedly being put out for sale. My thoughts are it will take atleast another six months for the big ammo companies to up machinery to get that up and going. Second problem you run into is components for components. When powder companies run out of reserve and brass companies can’t keep up with demand it puts ammo companies further behind. I hate it as much as anybody but hopefully everyone in that industry will revamp their operations so that this will be the last ammo scare we have for a while. If you had a way of producing any of those types of components you’d be sitting on a gold mine. There’s probably some investors out there somewhere looking into some of this.

Ain't gonna happen. They have over a year's worth of backorders right now. With the communists in control and the threat to the industry it would not be wise to make a large capital investment to increase production.


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Re: Anyone know what is going on with Ammo? [Re: jwalker77] #3358519
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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Yall got any for sale at a fair price?

U owe me $300 BTW 😀
Me n the boys shot today n I tried my best not to cringe at the shots fired lol


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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Yall got any for sale at a fair price?


If fair is synonymous with market, then I’ve got quite a few steel case 9mms for sale😉


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Originally Posted by jwalker77
Yall got any for sale at a fair price?

Whatcha looking for?

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