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Outboard Recommendation #3314659
01/06/21 11:30 AM
01/06/21 11:30 AM
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Lake View, AL
Joe4majors Offline OP
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I've been considering putting a little outboard on our Jon boat, but have zero experience with them. Typically I'm all about getting something old for cheap and getting it going again, but in this case I'm all for something that's just going to work and not leave us paddling. I'm also not putting a $2500 Yamaha on a boat we bought for $1. A few questions if you don't mind... What hp would you recommend for a 14' Jon boat? Are there certain brands to run from? What things should I consider if buying a used model? Any other advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3314674
01/06/21 11:58 AM
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A 9.9hp electric start 4 stroke of some sort.


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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3314950
01/06/21 03:55 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn't go much larger than a 10 hp.


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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3315012
01/06/21 04:38 PM
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Marshall county
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Tahotsu, nissian , would be my choice


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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3315064
01/06/21 05:18 PM
01/06/21 05:18 PM
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Huntsville, Al
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I’ve got a Mercury 15 hp 4 stroke on my 14 footer. Had a 9.9 Mariner. 9.9 was too slow for me.


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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Davyalabama] #3315074
01/06/21 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Davyalabama
Yeah, I wouldn't go much larger than a 10 hp.


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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3315210
01/06/21 07:44 PM
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Tohatsu, Mercury, Suzuki. A new 9.8 Tohatsu will cost about $2300, a 9.9 about $2500+. Call out to Lake Purdy and talk to them. They use Tohatsu on their rental boats and sell new ones. Sometimes have used they have taken off a boat. Nissan is now Tohatsu.

Good site for price and feature comparison on makes and models. https://onlineoutboards.com/collections/outboard-motors

Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Bronco 74] #3315294
01/06/21 08:59 PM
01/06/21 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bronco 74
I’ve got a Mercury 15 hp 4 stroke on my 14 footer. Had a 9.9 Mariner. 9.9 was too slow for me.

Yeah, thats the way my boys are...so they put a 50merc on their 14’ havoc rdb shocked


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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3315304
01/06/21 09:07 PM
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Marshall County
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That's not the best picture for me to use to make this proclamation but unless there's much more bracing that I can see, you need to do some extra work on that transom before you even consider putting an outboard on it. I wouldn't put much of a motor on it. It's better to go slow, than to sink.....


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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3315335
01/06/21 09:31 PM
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Meridianville
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40lb thrust trolling on the bow

Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3315361
01/06/21 09:58 PM
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North Alabama
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You need to fix that transom before you put anything on it. Add a piece of T60 aluminum against the transom on the inside, a piece of 1/8” angle for a top cap on the transom, and 1/4” angle in the corners. Without that, I wouldnt add anything to it. 2x4s will not suffice when you hit a stump.

Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3315398
01/06/21 10:38 PM
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As a few others have said a 10 HP would probably be all you want on that boat. Large outboards put excessive pressure on the transom.

Tip #1) If buying new, get a 4 stroke. If buying used, look around UNTIL you find a 4 stroke. You'll thank me later. I have a 25 HP 4 stroke tiller steer on mine and I can talk in a near normal volume back and forth to a passenger in the front of the boat as I'm running near WOT up the river and idling it's super quiet. You'll have to yell loudly back and forth with a 2 stroke. That noise gets old quick.

Tip #2) If you buy used, make sure it's pissing good even at idle.

Tip #3) Pull the lower unit oil plug and make sure it's not metallic looking oil.

Tip #4) If the prop is in rough shape on the motor you get, go ahead and invest in a new one. It's a good time to match the pitch to your needs also. You can find a good deal online. I have a brand new 9" aluminum prop I'd give you if if will match whatever you end up buying. You only have to promise to carry that boy fishing often to claim it. You can buy a hub kit for it for nearly nothing. I don't remember the pitch though. I think it's either a 9 or 11 pitch.

Tip#5) Listen to Hevishot.



Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3315426
01/06/21 11:16 PM
01/06/21 11:16 PM
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Huntsville, Al
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4 stroke all the way. My 150 on my big boat I have to check sometimes to see if it’s idling. You can carry on a conversation at 60 mph.


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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3315946
01/07/21 02:37 PM
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Sylacauga, AL
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I was between boats years ago and I fished 2 seasons in a boat about that size with a 9.9 Evinrude on it. It didn't go very fast, and I had to be selective about where I went, but I caught a bunch of fish outa that rig. The transom eventually rotted out of it completely, but I retired it to the pond and still use it often.

You would be doing yourself a huge favor by putting a seat on the front. I bought a small pedestal that is about 12" tall and fastened it to the front bench seat, and reinforced with a piece of thick aluminum and it has held together for over 40 years. Getting your seat up higher will make it much easier to operate the foot control TM. Of course, get off that seat when running your new outboard. Good luck with it.

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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3317580
01/09/21 07:03 AM
01/09/21 07:03 AM
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Lake View, AL
Joe4majors Offline OP
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Thanks for the advice guys. I should have opted for a more recent picture. The boat does have seats now and a trolling motor up front. We can get around the lakes by our house fine. The idea of an outboard is brainstorming at this point. I’d look into getting the transom beefed up in the meantime.

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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3318052
01/09/21 06:04 PM
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Alabaster, AL
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I had a 14’ Jon with a 7.5 Merc. Getting it to plane with 2 men was almost impossible. Almost. It took strategic positioning. I would brace and go 15hp but what does the plate say is the max? You may have to brace and stick with a 9.9.

Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3318454
01/10/21 01:28 AM
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To me that boat won't hold a 15hp no matter how u brace it. It's too little. I wouldn't put a 9.9. I'd go smaller hp or buy a bigger boat. That thing is designed for a 5hp I'd say.

Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3318606
01/10/21 09:57 AM
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Sylacauga, AL
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The one in my picture is rated for a 6 hp, but my dad ran an 18 Evinrude on it for several decades. I'm probably lucky to be alive.

I like your setup, Joe. It shows imagination!


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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3318963
01/10/21 04:03 PM
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You can never have too much horse power 😅. 50hp merc on a 14’ flat.
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Re: Outboard Recommendation [Re: Joe4majors] #3321433
01/12/21 04:39 PM
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Get you a used 15-20 in a 2 stroke johnson/evinrude, tohatsu or nissan. Watch the transom and if it flexes, then reinforce it.

I am always amazed by the folks screaming a transom won't hold up to a stump. Ok, point taken and agreed upon. So - you hit a stump at a blazing 8.5 mph. Now what? Oh yeah, stand up so you don't drown.


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