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Scope Comparisons #3207206
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I haven't bought a new scope since 1994. Bounced my old Burris Black Diamond off four wheelers, dropped it out of trees, and beat back briars with it. Neither end is still completely round. smile So, what is the best scope you experts recommend? Budget is around $1500. My first glance choice is the Swaro Z5 5-25x BT Plex, undecided on the illuminated version or not. What else do I need to look at before making up my mind? I like the idea of the BT so when I go out west I can dial up for the longer shots. Checking with the experts before making up my mind.


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Re: Scope Comparisons [Re: Wade] #3207257
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Hunting only? Longest shot you'll be taking?

Re: Scope Comparisons [Re: Wade] #3207263
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A Swarovski 3.5x18x44mm is a more versatile scope IMHO. Lower power setting gives larger field of view for woods hunting and 18X is plenty of magnification for long shots to 500 yards and beyond. If you don't practice shooting and know your ballistics very well you have no business taking a shot at an animal at those ranges anyhow.

Illuminated reticles have never done much for me. At last light they wash out the target even on the lowest setting. If I can't see the reticle, it's too late to be shootin.


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i suggest having a roll cage built around your new scope

Re: Scope Comparisons [Re: Wade] #3207289
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I love my Meopta scopes. Best low light scopes I ever had.
I can't offer advice on Swarovski or Schmidt because I don't want to mortgage a scope.


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Re: Scope Comparisons [Re: Out back] #3207318
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Originally Posted by Out back
I love my Meopta scopes. Best low light scopes I ever had.
I can't offer advice on Swarovski or Schmidt because I don't want to mortgage a scope.


Bought my last Schmidt for $600. You can find deals.

To Wade. You would do well with a nightforce. Seeing as how rough you are on glass 😂😂😂

Re: Scope Comparisons [Re: Wade] #3207334
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I'll throw another vote for the Swarovski Z5.

Used Swarovski PV scopes and some S&B would be well under your budget, and are outstanding glass. Not likely to have an exposed turret, though. We have a number of Swarovski and Schmidt-Bender, but have only bought two new, both for my wife.

Re: Scope Comparisons [Re: extreme heights hunter] #3207388
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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
A Swarovski 3.5x18x44mm is a more versatile scope IMHO. Lower power setting gives larger field of view for woods hunting and 18X is plenty of magnification for long shots to 500 yards and beyond. If you don't practice shooting and know your ballistics very well you have no business taking a shot at an animal at those ranges anyhow.

Illuminated reticles have never done much for me. At last light they wash out the target even on the lowest setting. If I can't see the reticle, it's too late to be shootin.


This ^^^. There’s one in the classifieds at nice price, NIB.

Originally Posted by extreme heights hunter
i suggest having a roll cage built around your new scope


Also..... THIS ^^^^. rofl rofl rofl


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Re: Scope Comparisons [Re: Wade] #3207393
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leupold.....either VX6 2-12x42 firedot or your choice of variable and objective with heavy duplex.

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Love my schmidt. Best scope I have ever owned


What the @^%^% was that?
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Had many different scopes but not Schmidt or swaro - they prob at top from why read and heard but for the money - meopta makes very good scope - excellent at bringing in light


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The new leupold vx5 or vx6 HD's are awesome

Re: Scope Comparisons [Re: UncleHuck] #3207820
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Originally Posted by UncleHuck

I'll throw another vote for the Swarovski Z5.

Used Swarovski PV scopes and some S&B would be well under your budget, and are outstanding glass. Not likely to have an exposed turret, though. We have a number of Swarovski and Schmidt-Bender, but have only bought two new, both for my wife.


Huck and I both have tested a bunch of scopes over the years. Swarovskis and S&B top the list for hunting rifles imo. I think I’ve got 6 rifles now with either of those two manufacturers for glass. All those rifles utilize MPBR or ballistics reticles for distance. My two long range rifles (1K yards) Have Zeiss and Burris XTR scopes as they are better suited for dialing. No one makes a good aftermarket turret for Swarovskis and I’m not a fan of their ballistic turrets. They are repeatable and accurate but not quick like the Burris Turret. My S&B is a 2-6x42 sitting on a .444 marlin. It’s probably one of the best low light s op I’ve ever used and with the heavy post reticle I could shoot accurately at midnight lol.

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Originally Posted by joshm28
Originally Posted by UncleHuck

I'll throw another vote for the Swarovski Z5.

Used Swarovski PV scopes and some S&B would be well under your budget, and are outstanding glass. Not likely to have an exposed turret, though. We have a number of Swarovski and Schmidt-Bender, but have only bought two new, both for my wife.


Huck and I both have tested a bunch of scopes over the years. Swarovskis and S&B top the list for hunting rifles imo. I think I’ve got 6 rifles now with either of those two manufacturers for glass. All those rifles utilize MPBR or ballistics reticles for distance. My two long range rifles (1K yards) Have Zeiss and Burris XTR scopes as they are better suited for dialing. No one makes a good aftermarket turret for Swarovskis and I’m not a fan of their ballistic turrets. They are repeatable and accurate but not quick like the Burris Turret. My S&B is a 2-6x42 sitting on a .444 marlin. It’s probably one of the best low light s op I’ve ever used and with the heavy post reticle I could shoot accurately at midnight lol.

If you ever decide to part with that S&B, I'm your man. 😀


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The 30mm 4-16 viper linked in the general forum for $300 is hard to beat ..

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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by joshm28
Originally Posted by UncleHuck

I'll throw another vote for the Swarovski Z5.

Used Swarovski PV scopes and some S&B would be well under your budget, and are outstanding glass. Not likely to have an exposed turret, though. We have a number of Swarovski and Schmidt-Bender, but have only bought two new, both for my wife.


Huck and I both have tested a bunch of scopes over the years. Swarovskis and S&B top the list for hunting rifles imo. I think I’ve got 6 rifles now with either of those two manufacturers for glass. All those rifles utilize MPBR or ballistics reticles for distance. My two long range rifles (1K yards) Have Zeiss and Burris XTR scopes as they are better suited for dialing. No one makes a good aftermarket turret for Swarovskis and I’m not a fan of their ballistic turrets. They are repeatable and accurate but not quick like the Burris Turret. My S&B is a 2-6x42 sitting on a .444 marlin. It’s probably one of the best low light s op I’ve ever used and with the heavy post reticle I could shoot accurately at midnight lol.

If you ever decide to part with that S&B, I'm your man. 😀


Sorry buddy by I don’t sell. I only buy 😂

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Re: Scope Comparisons [Re: Wade] #3207996
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Buy the Swarovski in the classifieds.

Don’t worry about the BT because under 95% of hunting situations the standard plex reticle will be fine.


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Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by joshm28
Originally Posted by UncleHuck

I'll throw another vote for the Swarovski Z5.

Used Swarovski PV scopes and some S&B would be well under your budget, and are outstanding glass. Not likely to have an exposed turret, though. We have a number of Swarovski and Schmidt-Bender, but have only bought two new, both for my wife.


Huck and I both have tested a bunch of scopes over the years. Swarovskis and S&B top the list for hunting rifles imo. I think I’ve got 6 rifles now with either of those two manufacturers for glass. All those rifles utilize MPBR or ballistics reticles for distance. My two long range rifles (1K yards) Have Zeiss and Burris XTR scopes as they are better suited for dialing. No one makes a good aftermarket turret for Swarovskis and I’m not a fan of their ballistic turrets. They are repeatable and accurate but not quick like the Burris Turret. My S&B is a 2-6x42 sitting on a .444 marlin. It’s probably one of the best low light s op I’ve ever used and with the heavy post reticle I could shoot accurately at midnight lol.

If you ever decide to part with that S&B, I'm your man. 😀


Wes, if I ever find another one, I'll call you first.

Only scopes I own that are in the same league as S&B or Swarovski are older Kahles Helia and any older Zeiss Diavari from West Germany with the T* coatings. I have a Kahles Helia S 3-12 x 56 that is so old that it has a blued steel tube. I have killed pigs with it over an hour after sundown.

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I’m a big fan of the Older Swarovski Habicht series. For the money there’s not much out there better I have 5 total

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