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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: Skullworks] #3184061
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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
220 Marines
18 Navy sailors
3 Army soldiers

Karma is a bitch. And it’ll get you sooner or later.


That wasn't the country of Lebanon. It was Islamic Jihad backed by Hezbollah and Iran.

58 French military personnel there with us were also lost.

Originally Posted by stuball
Last I saw 2750 tons of ammonia nitrate that was being stored at the port after being seized.


That would do it. Also explains the orange cloud of NO2 which may be more toxic than the detonation. Poor or no mixture with a liquid fuel or oil source causes a heavy concentration of it as a direct product of the detonation process, is produced in the after burning reactions and by the secondary oxidation of NO to NO2 as the cloud mixes with air. The orange coloration is caused by the presence of NO2 once it fully oxidizes.

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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
Originally Posted by Geno
From a little over a mile away. Can easily see the fireworks burning off and the detonation.

https://www.facebook.com/scott.bales/videos/10207720447924868


No whistling, no multicolored effects, no 100yard launches and report. That looks like ordinance cooking off.


Yeah, there may have been fireworks in there.....and they may even be responsible for the initial fire......but that big explosion was not simply the detonation of a bunch of fireworks. I heard the same as mentioned above - 2750 TONS of ammonium nitrate. For perspective, the OKC bombing was 2 tons...


Fireworks don't detonate. They are a fast burn much like gunpowder or gasoline vapors.


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Originally Posted by Geno
Originally Posted by GomerPyle

Yeah, there may have been fireworks in there.....and they may even be responsible for the initial fire......but that big explosion was not simply the detonation of a bunch of fireworks. I heard the same as mentioned above - 2750 TONS of ammonium nitrate. For perspective, the OKC bombing was 2 tons...


Fireworks don't detonate. They are a fast burn much like gunpowder or gasoline vapors.

Whatever Russ...whatever


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: Skullworks] #3184088
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Wow that's was crazy


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: Skullworks] #3184099
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left horn is right. The shock wave off that thing looked like nothing but military grade explosives.


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: perchjerker] #3184113
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by Geno
Originally Posted by GomerPyle

Yeah, there may have been fireworks in there.....and they may even be responsible for the initial fire......but that big explosion was not simply the detonation of a bunch of fireworks. I heard the same as mentioned above - 2750 TONS of ammonium nitrate. For perspective, the OKC bombing was 2 tons...


Fireworks don't detonate. They are a fast burn much like gunpowder or gasoline vapors.

Whatever Russ...whatever


When you need to destroy anything harder than a tent......the difference is massive and very important.


Originally Posted by perchjerker
left horn is right. The shock wave off that thing looked like nothing but military grade explosives.


No. Just a lot of really crappy explosives. If not mixed with anything, it's about 1/5 as powerful as military tnt. If mixed with fuel oil (diesel) it has the brissancy of about 3/4 of military tnt. If mixed with some other easily available ingredients, it's brissancy can be increased to about 90 percent of military tnt. It has to be properly caked and packed to achieve that.


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: Skullworks] #3184114
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Saw a news report that said it was the largest non nuclear explosion in history.


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: buzzard] #3184115
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Originally Posted by buzzard
Saw a news report that said it was the largest non nuclear explosion in history.


This is incorrect.


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: Skullworks] #3184119
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Show me the biggest then cause I want to see it


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: Skullworks] #3184127
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After watching the video, I'm wondering what ever happened to Carl Spackler after Cadfyshack.


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: buzzard] #3184130
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Originally Posted by buzzard
Show me the biggest then cause I want to see it


https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/44048...cted-no-traces-of-radioactive-materials/

6 September, 2017. Mount Mantap, North Korea. The largest to date

Probably 75 or so explosions rival or easily surpass this one in size. Here are the first four a google search could find in chronological order.

In 1769, the Bastion of San Nazaro in Brescia, Italy was struck by lightning. The resulting fire ignited 90 tonnes of gunpowder being stored, destroyed one-sixth of the city and killed 3,000 people.

On 19 February 1896, an explosives train at Braamfontein station in Johannesburg, loaded with between 56 and 60 tons of blasting gelatine for the gold mines of the Witwatersrand and having been standing for three and a half days in searing heat, was struck by a shunting train. The load exploded, leaving a crater in the Braamfontein rail yard 60 metres (200 ft) long, 50 metres (160 ft) wide and 8 metres (26 ft) deep. The explosion was heard up to 200 kilometres (120 mi) away. 75 people were killed, and more than 200 injured. Surrounding suburbs were destroyed, and roughly 3,000 people lost their homes. Almost every window in Johannesburg was broken.

On 15 October 1907, approximately 40,000 kegs of powder were ignited in Fontanet, Indiana, killing between 50 and 80 people, and destroying the town. The sound of the explosion was heard over 200 miles (320 km) away, with damage occurring to buildings 25 miles (40 km) away.

On 9 March 1911, the village of Pleasant Prairie and neighboring town of Bristol, 4 miles away, was leveled by the explosion of five magazines holding 300 tons of dynamite, 105,000 kegs of black blasting powder, and five railroad cars filled dynamite housed at a 190-acre DuPont blasting powder plant. A crater 100 ft deep was left where the plant stood. Several hundred people were injured. The plant was closed at the time, so deaths were light, with only three plant employees being killed, E. S. "Old Man" Thompson, Clarence Brady and Joseph Flynt, and an Alice Finch in Elgin, Illinois who died of shock. Most buildings in a 5 mile radius were rendered flat or uninhabitable. The explosion was widely felt within a radius of 130 miles, and largely thought to be an earthquake. Residents in nearby Lake County, Illinois saw the fireball and remembering the Peshtigo fire fled their houses, jumping into Lake Michigan. Police in Chicago scoured the streets, looking for the site of a bombing. Windows were shattered as far away as Madison, Wisconsin, a distance of some 85 miles. The explosion was reportedly heard up to 500 miles away. A DuPont spokesman was reported on as being perplexed by the coverage of the blast, quoted as saying "explosions occur every day in steel mills, flouring mills and grain elevators with hardly a line in the paper."


The DuPont explosion of 1907 caused damage to buildings 85 miles away and was heard 500 miles away. Probably twelve times as powerful as this one if not more.

We should be able to criminally charge the media when they make statements that can easily be verified as false within seconds.










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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: Skullworks] #3184161
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It was the responsibility of the country of Lebanon to provide “off post security”. In other words they were supposed to have our back. So like I said Geno piss on um!


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: leroycnbucks] #3184170
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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
It was the responsibility of the country of Lebanon to provide “off post security”. In other words they were supposed to have our back. So like I said Geno piss on um!



That's like asking Kitts and St. Nevis to protect us. I understand your animosity and agree with it but when a state/country is so weak they can't even control their borders or towns, it is most likely misplaced.

Correctly placed animosity would be directed towards those who committed the act. Do we hate the U.S. Government for allowing pearl harbor or the twin towers attacks?


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: Skullworks] #3184209
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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: buzzard] #3184210
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Originally Posted by buzzard
Show me the biggest then cause I want to see it


There was a US ship that blew up in Galveston or Houston a good long while ago but it was pretty dang massive. Seems like it was sodium nitrate and a fire started and eventually set it off.


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: Skullworks] #3184226
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A cargo ship explodes at dockside in Texas City, Texas. The blast and the fires that follow kill about 600 people and injure 3,500 more. Six decades later, it remains the deadliest explosion and worst industrial disaster in U.S. history.

The Grandcamp, a World War II Liberty ship that had been converted to a French merchant vessel, was taking on a load of ammonium nitrate fertilizer at a quay next to a complex of Monsanto chemical factories, offices and labs.

Ignited a 6 day rain of fire and detonations.


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: WmHunter] #3184232
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Lebanon has been teeter tottering on more sectarian conflict lately.
And they have huge economic problems, Iranian influence, spillage from the Syrian civil war.......it is like a powder keg.

Some of those Lebanese women are pretty hot though.


My ex wife was Lebanese.... they're hot headed too rofl

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Originally Posted by Geno
A cargo ship explodes at dockside in Texas City, Texas. The blast and the fires that follow kill about 600 people and injure 3,500 more. Six decades later, it remains the deadliest explosion and worst industrial disaster in U.S. history.

The Grandcamp, a World War II Liberty ship that had been converted to a French merchant vessel, was taking on a load of ammonium nitrate fertilizer at a quay next to a complex of Monsanto chemical factories, offices and labs.

Ignited a 6 day rain of fire and detonations.


It blew the ships 5 ton anchor 1 mile.

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Originally Posted by Geno
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
It was the responsibility of the country of Lebanon to provide “off post security”. In other words they were supposed to have our back. So like I said Geno piss on um!



That's like asking Kitts and St. Nevis to protect us. I understand your animosity and agree with it but when a state/country is so weak they can't even control their borders or towns, it is most likely misplaced.

Correctly placed animosity would be directed towards those who committed the act. Do we hate the U.S. Government for allowing pearl harbor or the twin towers attacks?



Piss on Japan and Saudi Arabia. What else you got?


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Re: Beirut explosion [Re: leroycnbucks] #3184239
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Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
Originally Posted by Geno
Originally Posted by leroycnbucks
It was the responsibility of the country of Lebanon to provide “off post security”. In other words they were supposed to have our back. So like I said Geno piss on um!



That's like asking Kitts and St. Nevis to protect us. I understand your animosity and agree with it but when a state/country is so weak they can't even control their borders or towns, it is most likely misplaced.

Correctly placed animosity would be directed towards those who committed the act. Do we hate the U.S. Government for allowing pearl harbor or the twin towers attacks?



Piss on Japan and Saudi Arabia. What else you got?


You mistake my attempt at clarification for some sort of attack. My apologies.


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firework factory is usually code word for uranium enrichment plant or chemical weapons factory. somebody didnt like what was going on in there and took it out thats not a fireworks factory explosion. more will be known in a few days.

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