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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: BhamFred] #3181484
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Originally Posted by BhamFred
holding a fan in yer hand is not a mechanical action no matter what he says.



That does seem like a stretch. About the same as redefining the baiting area to be 100 yds and out of sight, but it meaning that only for deer. Say what?

I wish they had never made decoys legal at all. AL was the only state who didn't allow them, but I always thought our dcnr should have been telling the other states they should copy us instead of us wanting to be like them.


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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: turkey247] #3181489
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Originally Posted by turkey247
Originally Posted by gobblebox
It says no mechanical,electronic or handheld,or any that attached to a gun,a fan doesn’t have to have a mechanical part,they’re handheld or usually mounted on a gun,I’ve never used one or a decoy so it doesn’t apply to me anyway


That means all decoys are illegal until they are setup and left alone. I generally tote stuff and handle stuff with my hands.


Just ignore it. Until they get rid of that arrogant, incompetent, asshat nothing will make any sense.


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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: BC] #3181504
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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: BC] #3183619
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I have never had any interest in "fanning".....I rarely even use decoys because that style of hunting just doesn't do much for me.

BUT.....the fact that that smug, arrogant, prick says we can't, and tried to twist some poorly-worded "rule" to make that claim, makes me REALLY want to do it, just to spite him.


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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: BC] #3183630
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I wish they'd outlaw all decoys.


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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: General] #3183650
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Originally Posted by General
I wish they'd outlaw all decoys.


Concur


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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: wmd] #3183667
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Originally Posted by wmd
Originally Posted by General
I wish they'd outlaw all decoys.


Concur


It used to be that way. I don’t even remember when or why it changed.

Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: BC] #3183809
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Money. Someone in the decoy business asked them to and probably gave some money to politicians to make sure they did.

Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: BC] #3184009
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Decoys became legal in 2005 when the Conservation Advisory Board rightfully approved their use. It's only been 15 years.

Denying the opportunity to use decoys without any biological data to support a prohibition was — and still would be — nothing more than the imposition of high-minded morality.

Decoys are merely tools. Use them or don't.


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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: BC] #3184385
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Decoys have cost me more gobblers than they have gotten me. Probably a 5 to 1 ratio. I dont even tote them anymore

Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: ALFisher] #3184411
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Originally Posted by ALFisher
Money. Someone in the decoy business asked them to and probably gave some money to politicians to make sure they did.


Kind of like crossbows.

Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: BC] #3184413
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I have used a decoy when bow hunting, only time I've done it.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: BC] #3184443
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Killed several coyotes using a decoy. I carry one because it causes the hens and jakes to stick around longer. No fanning for me. Too many damn outlaws in the woods.

Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: turkey247] #3184492
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Originally Posted by turkey247


That means all decoys are illegal until they are setup and left alone. I generally tote stuff and handle stuff with my hands.



You are right, and BhamFred is right. There is not way to codify behavior on what is and isn't "reaping". Carrying a gobbler decoy with fan to set up in a field is the same thing, and subsequently illegal under the new "rule".

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As an aside, there is a legal principle called "de minimis non curat lex", in latin.

It means, literally, the law does not concern itself with trifles. Being "sneaky" with a legal strutting gobbler decoy is going to be awful hard to prove.

Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: Remington270] #3184562
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Originally Posted by Remington270
Originally Posted by turkey247


That means all decoys are illegal until they are setup and left alone. I generally tote stuff and handle stuff with my hands.



You are right, and BhamFred is right. There is not way to codify behavior on what is and isn't "reaping". Carrying a gobbler decoy with fan to set up in a field is the same thing, and subsequently illegal under the new "rule".


Could you not leave your weapon unloaded until you are set up and ready to hunt (if you want to use a gobbler decoy with a fan)?

Last edited by wmd; 08/05/20 02:48 PM.

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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: BC] #3184620
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One thing to remember with the strutter decoy - if you are not dealing with the dominant bird - good chance the subordinate want come in. Once I had a subordinate gobbler or 2 coming in on string and then see strutter and not get into gun range - I stopped using mature gobblers all together forever. Overall - unless you hav a really dominant bird you are going after - prob not good idea to carry mature gobbler anyway.
I like using decoys - but to each his own. I hav killed more turkeys with out decoys and killed several on WMAs without - but especially if I am on open ground - I use a real wimpy stuffed jake and lay down or breading hen - very deadly if they get into sight.


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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: TDog93] #3185322
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Originally Posted by TDog93
One thing to remember with the strutter decoy - if you are not dealing with the dominant bird - good chance the subordinate want come in. Once I had a subordinate gobbler or 2 coming in on string and then see strutter and not get into gun range - I stopped using mature gobblers all together forever. Overall - unless you hav a really dominant bird you are going after - prob not good idea to carry mature gobbler anyway.
I like using decoys - but to each his own. I hav killed more turkeys with out decoys and killed several on WMAs without - but especially if I am on open ground - I use a real wimpy stuffed jake and lay down or breading hen - very deadly if they get into sight.

Jake decoy has scared more gobblers than anything imo

Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: Ben2] #3185381
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by TDog93
One thing to remember with the strutter decoy - if you are not dealing with the dominant bird - good chance the subordinate want come in. Once I had a subordinate gobbler or 2 coming in on string and then see strutter and not get into gun range - I stopped using mature gobblers all together forever. Overall - unless you hav a really dominant bird you are going after - prob not good idea to carry mature gobbler anyway.
I like using decoys - but to each his own. I hav killed more turkeys with out decoys and killed several on WMAs without - but especially if I am on open ground - I use a real wimpy stuffed jake and lay down or breading hen - very deadly if they get into sight.


Jake decoy has scared more gobblers than anything imo


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Re: Fanning/Reaping illegal in Alabama. [Re: Ben2] #3185401
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by TDog93
One thing to remember with the strutter decoy - if you are not dealing with the dominant bird - good chance the subordinate want come in. Once I had a subordinate gobbler or 2 coming in on string and then see strutter and not get into gun range - I stopped using mature gobblers all together forever. Overall - unless you hav a really dominant bird you are going after - prob not good idea to carry mature gobbler anyway.
I like using decoys - but to each his own. I hav killed more turkeys with out decoys and killed several on WMAs without - but especially if I am on open ground - I use a real wimpy stuffed jake and lay down or breading hen - very deadly if they get into sight.

Jake decoy has scared more gobblers than anything imo


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