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Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question #3173041
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So, if a person is hospitalized with Covid 19, is said patient tested daily to see if they still have it?

Also, what's the latest nationwide count of Covid 19 hospitalizations?


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Re: Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3173047
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No. If you test positive you should not be tested again for another 4 weeks. That’s how the hospital I work at is doing it anyways

Re: Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3173051
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Don't know about the former, but for the latter

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Re: Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3173059
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April 10, daily, About 150k test,35k cases, 57k hospitalized, 2k deaths... Of those tested that equals 23% positive, 38% hospitalized, 1.3% death rate


July 1, daily, about 650k tested, 50k positive, 45k hospitalized, 1k deaths... of those tested that equals about 7% positive, just under 7% hospitalized, 0.1% death rate

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Re: Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3173071
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If you're a data person this is a pretty neat website.

https://www.msightly.com/covid-19/index.php#us


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Re: Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question [Re: wmd] #3173085
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Originally Posted by wmd
If you're a data person this is a pretty neat website.

https://www.msightly.com/covid-19/index.php#us

According to that, about 1 out of 25 dies of it. You realize thats crap dont you. You gave me a link to some info the other day. This links info dont match.

Re: Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3173103
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Edit: A thought that came to me while I was feeding the pets:

The numbers say roughly 1/25 HAVE died from it. It's not a predictive statistic; it's a result based on the current numbers.

1/25 would be 4% nationwide.

I get 3.67% when I divide the overall number of confirmed fatalities by the number of confirmed cases.

What am I missing? What numbers are you disputing.

The map is from a different website and was showing daily trends from 1 April - to 21 July, with a superimposed 7-day average, with the numbers at the top of each graph being the numbers for today (since somebody asked for the current hospitalization numbers).


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Re: Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3173110
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According to the graphs above...

July 21... cases= 62,749 deaths=1,029

1029/62749= 1.6%


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Re: Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3173112
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The shoals insider reports daily on 105.5 and he keeps stating the fully recovered rate is 87%. So is there 10% that have lifetime conditions they never fully recover from C19 considering 3% or so die?

That is the only place I hear this but he refers to the state health department numbers and say they want him to remind people of that stat

More curious than anything


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Re: Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question [Re: CKyleC] #3173116
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Originally Posted by CKyleC
According to the graphs above...

July 21... cases= 62,749 deaths=1,029

1029/62749= 1.6%


Right, it's just simple math that's why I'm confused. The website has cumulative cases and cumulative fatalities going back to sometime in March that comes out to CFR = 3.67%
The numbers are heavily skewed by NY and NJ that have CFR's of >6% and >8%, respectively.
Alabama's CFR has been 2% +/- a few tenths of a percent for the majority of the time, I believe.


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Originally Posted by wmd
Originally Posted by CKyleC
According to the graphs above...

July 21... cases= 62,749 deaths=1,029

1029/62749= 1.6%


Right, it's just simple math that's why I'm confused. The website has cumulative cases and cumulative fatalities going back to sometime in March that comes out to CFR = 3.67%
The numbers are heavily skewed by NY and NJ that have CFR's of >6% and >8%, respectively.
Alabama's CFR has been 2% +/- a few tenths of a percent for the majority of the time, I believe.



They put the virus in nursing homes. If the only people exposed are the elderly, your death rate will go up.

Also, as testing increases, so will positives. If the deadliness stays the same, but positives go up, the death rate goes down

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Speaking of nursing homes and covid, my grandfather in law has been in a nursing home since fall. He has been isolated from everyone. No way the check in on him. To make a long story short, he tested positive for cv19 Wednesday and we didn't find out till Saturday. He is at st Vincent east now and the dr basically said he probably won't make it through the week... Here is the kicker. The dr wanted to send him home with my 65 yo mother in law! She pitched a fit and refused ...


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Originally Posted by !shiloh!
Speaking of nursing homes and covid, my grandfather in law has been in a nursing home since fall. He has been isolated from everyone. No way the check in on him. To make a long story short, he tested positive for cv19 Wednesday and we didn't find out till Saturday. He is at st Vincent east now and the dr basically said he probably won't make it through the week... Here is the kicker. The dr wanted to send him home with my 65 yo mother in law! She pitched a fit and refused ...



Shiloh, I hate to hear that. Prayers for your family!

Unfortunately, this type of stuff continues to happen. I'm glad your MIL made a sensible decision. That's a hard spot to be put in and would be hard to say no


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Thanks. It's been tough of my wife. She can't stand the tought of him dying by himself. He dang sure does deserve this. Its a shame.


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Retest in 14 days around this area.

Re: Hospitalized with Covid and being tested question [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3173196
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My mom has had 8 covid tests in the last 6 weeks. Tested positive then given another test a week later when admitted for pneumonia. Then positive at the hospital during her release. Two negatives the next week. Then she broke her leg and had a rapid test that came back positive followed by 2 more negatives. She will have to have at least one more prior to surgery to repair the broken leg It is just getting dumb.

Save yourself some headaches and don't get the rapid, because if comes back with a false positive it'll about destroy your life.

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My daughter tested positive last week and we had been to visit with her to see our grandbaby the weekend prior to her testing positive. We had our test today which was 7 days since we were with her and we both tested negative. We are pretty sure her husband and 8 month old baby have it now but they have not been tested yet. They were both running a fever and had pink eye and diarrhea today. I am really worried about the little fellow. My daughter was rushed to hospital in ambulance on Friday but we chalked it up to a panic anxiety attack after she tested positive. She is young and healthy and at home doing much better now but hates not being able to see her baby for 14 days.


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Patients who have tested positive are retested daily until they test neg, at out local hospital.

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Originally Posted by cartervj
The shoals insider reports daily on 105.5 and he keeps stating the fully recovered rate is 87%. So is there 10% that have lifetime conditions they never fully recover from C19 considering 3% or so die?


The CFR in Florida today is <1.5%.
CFR = Case Fatality Rate
IFR = Infection Fatality Rate (this is the number of importance)

CFR is ONLY people that have tested positive
IFR is people that have tested positive + untested positive people

The numbers that I have seen for untested positive people have determined that this number is 11-80 times higher than the number of people that have tested positive. We also know that ~80% of the cases are Asymptomatic (4x the number of tested people)

SO.................................... Take the CFR and divide by 5 or 81 and the IFR should be between those 2 numbers. I know that is a STUPID range, but it will vary by area.

For reference: The IFR for the seasonal flu is ~0.07-0.13%.

IFR varies with age, comorbidities, healthcare, etc. It is a combination, not just one of those factors.

For example Africa........................... High or low?
Africa has horrible healthcare, but sickly people in Africa don't live very long. Their population is relatively young, and free of severe comorbidities.
The Covid IFR in Africa will most likely be lower than in America.


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Originally Posted by !shiloh!
Speaking of nursing homes and covid, my grandfather in law has been in a nursing home since fall. He has been isolated from everyone. No way the check in on him. To make a long story short, he tested positive for cv19 Wednesday and we didn't find out till Saturday. He is at st Vincent east now and the dr basically said he probably won't make it through the week... Here is the kicker. The dr wanted to send him home with my 65 yo mother in law! She pitched a fit and refused ...


Sorry for the news about your Grandfather in Law. Some of the decisions and advice some doctors and people in healthcare are handing out is beyond crazy. Prayers up.

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