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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: jawbone]
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06/13/20 10:03 PM
06/13/20 10:03 PM
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NE Alabama
Abbhudson
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I'm pretty sure a Police taser can kill to. They don't sell Police tasers to the public for that reason. Even if it doesn’t kill the officer, he/she could become incapacitated by being tased, then the criminal can take their weapon. So, the way I see it the officer can not afford to become tased. TASERS are nonlethal force, but as pointed out, they make the person incapacitated and at the mercy of the bad guy in this case. That is the officer's defense. Of course, the other side will say that all the deceased wanted to do was run away. Unfortunately we don't have machines to read a dead man's mind so the officer will be offered up as a sacrificial lamb in this case. Jawbone you seem like the man that will know the answer to this question, those tasers are basically a single shot right? Once he fired it and missed isn't it pretty much just a piece of plastic?
Last edited by Abbhudson; 06/13/20 10:04 PM.
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: Abbhudson]
#3144985
06/13/20 10:24 PM
06/13/20 10:24 PM
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Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 882
Trussville, AL
keith5579
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6 point
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Trussville, AL
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I think the new model tasers have 2 shots in one cartridge. I'm pretty sure a Police taser can kill to. They don't sell Police tasers to the public for that reason. Even if it doesn’t kill the officer, he/she could become incapacitated by being tased, then the criminal can take their weapon. So, the way I see it the officer can not afford to become tased. TASERS are nonlethal force, but as pointed out, they make the person incapacitated and at the mercy of the bad guy in this case. That is the officer's defense. Of course, the other side will say that all the deceased wanted to do was run away. Unfortunately we don't have machines to read a dead man's mind so the officer will be offered up as a sacrificial lamb in this case. Jawbone you seem like the man that will know the answer to this question, those tasers are basically a single shot right? Once he fired it and missed isn't it pretty much just a piece of plastic?
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: Abbhudson]
#3144986
06/13/20 10:24 PM
06/13/20 10:24 PM
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Posts: 1,460
North of 459 South of 20
bhammedic84
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I'm pretty sure a Police taser can kill to. They don't sell Police tasers to the public for that reason. Even if it doesn’t kill the officer, he/she could become incapacitated by being tased, then the criminal can take their weapon. So, the way I see it the officer can not afford to become tased. TASERS are nonlethal force, but as pointed out, they make the person incapacitated and at the mercy of the bad guy in this case. That is the officer's defense. Of course, the other side will say that all the deceased wanted to do was run away. Unfortunately we don't have machines to read a dead man's mind so the officer will be offered up as a sacrificial lamb in this case. Jawbone you seem like the man that will know the answer to this question, those tasers are basically a single shot right? Once he fired it and missed isn't it pretty much just a piece of plastic? correct single shot until reloaded with another cartridge
Turkey’s tell you when they want to die not lawmakers.
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: hoggin]
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06/13/20 10:25 PM
06/13/20 10:25 PM
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Trussville, AL
keith5579
6 point
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, ANYONE wearing a badge today is either stupid or convinced they can’t make a living any other way and has nothing to lose. Or they're too close to retirement to quit now.
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: Morris]
#3144993
06/13/20 10:35 PM
06/13/20 10:35 PM
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Posts: 5,101
Opp Alabama
bward85
12 point
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12 point
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Opp Alabama
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Well the Wendy’s restaurant where all this went down is reportedly on fire now Bet you'll never see them burn a KFC 😄
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: bhammedic84]
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06/13/20 10:59 PM
06/13/20 10:59 PM
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Posts: 15,649
Montgomery
bamaeyedoc
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Montgomery
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Yep. Wendy’s is toasted. This is more like a 3rd world war zone.
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Glennis Jerome "Jerry" Harris
1938-2017
UGA Class of 1960
BS/MS Forestry
LTJG, USNR
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: bhammedic84]
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06/13/20 11:23 PM
06/13/20 11:23 PM
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Posts: 25,758
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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Tasers were single use devices when I was still working and they have to have another cartridge put in it before it can be used again. This info would appear to be bad news for the officer that fired his duty weapon on the deceased but do we know that he was aware of the first officer deploying his taser already?
This would be an interesting case to follow if the fix didn’t appear to already be in, not in the officer’s favor.
To answer some of y’all’s remarks. I would not go into LE right now, but if I was still in it, I would not quit either and abandon my fellow officers and let the criminals win without a fight.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: jawbone]
#3145012
06/13/20 11:39 PM
06/13/20 11:39 PM
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North of 459 South of 20
bhammedic84
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8 point
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explain please .. from what i saw the officer who shot the man tried to use his taser but the subject fired the other officers taser making him stumble as you can see in the security camera footage. https://bluelivesmatter.blue/video-...s-firing-taser-at-cop-before-being-shot/Tasers were single use devices when I was still working and they have to have another cartridge put in it before it can be used again. This info would appear to be bad news for the officer that fired his duty weapon on the deceased but do we know that he was aware of the first officer deploying his taser already?
This would be an interesting case to follow if the fix didn’t appear to already be in, not in the officer’s favor.
To answer some of y’all’s remarks. I would not go into LE right now, but if I was already in it, I would not quit either and abandon my fellow officers and let the criminals win without a fight.
Turkey’s tell you when they want to die not lawmakers.
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: jawbone]
#3145013
06/13/20 11:41 PM
06/13/20 11:41 PM
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Posts: 4,565
McCalla
hoggin
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McCalla
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Tasers were single use devices when I was still working and they have to have another cartridge put in it before it can be used again. This info would appear to be bad news for the officer that fired his duty weapon on the deceased but do we know that he was aware of the first officer deploying his taser already?
This would be an interesting case to follow if the fix didn’t appear to already be in, not in the officer’s favor.
To answer some of y’all’s remarks. I would not go into LE right now, but if I was already in it, I would not quit either and abandon my fellow officers and let the criminals win without a fight. Who’s to say the officer who fired knew it was the taser and not the duty weapon of the other officer the idiot got control of It’s not a fight, it’s kinda like riding with Custer chasing Indians, ain’t no help coming and the committed can’t win!
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: hoggin]
#3145015
06/13/20 11:52 PM
06/13/20 11:52 PM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 25,758
Fayetteville TN Via Selma
jawbone
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jan 2001
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Fayetteville TN Via Selma
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Tasers were single use devices when I was still working and they have to have another cartridge put in it before it can be used again. This info would appear to be bad news for the officer that fired his duty weapon on the deceased but do we know that he was aware of the first officer deploying his taser already?
This would be an interesting case to follow if the fix didn’t appear to already be in, not in the officer’s favor.
To answer some of y’all’s remarks. I would not go into LE right now, but if I was already in it, I would not quit either and abandon my fellow officers and let the criminals win without a fight. Who’s to say the officer who fired knew it was the taser and not the duty weapon of the other officer the idiot got control of It’s not a fight, it’s kinda like riding with Custer chasing Indians, ain’t no help coming and the committed can’t win! Excellent point hoggin. If they try to prosecute the officer it will be hard to legitimately show beyond a reasonable doubt that he knew it was a taser and not a pistol the guy pointed at him.
Lord, please help us get our nation straightened out.
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: hoggin]
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06/14/20 12:21 AM
06/14/20 12:21 AM
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Posts: 18,070
Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
DEADorALIVE
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Andalusia, Al. Covington Co.
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, ANYONE wearing a badge today is either stupid or convinced they can’t make a living any other way and has nothing to lose. AMEN! 13 years as an LEO, I've been out for just over 22 years, now, and haven't missed it a single day...not one. single. day.
Well behaved women never make history.~ Out back
Quit laughing...I think I broke something.
Fifteen is my limit on Schnitzen-Gruben, Baby...
I have OCD and ADD, so everything has to be perfect, but only for a minute.
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: perchjerker]
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06/14/20 04:59 AM
06/14/20 04:59 AM
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Posts: 18,047
North AL
AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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North AL
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Start ordering rounds online, because places like Academy look someone vacuumed their shelves. People are getting scared again. If you don't have your ammo already you may be SOL.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: ATL POLICE
[Re: bhammedic84]
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06/14/20 06:26 AM
06/14/20 06:26 AM
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Posts: 24,832
Buc-ee’s Beach Express
leroycnbucks
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
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Buc-ee’s Beach Express
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This mob rules mentality isn’t going to end well. Police officers need our support now more than ever. Seeing how the chain of command is of a liberal mindset and will offer them up as a sacrificial lamb instead of having their backs until an investigation is over.
Proud Army and ALNG veteran
God Bless America!
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