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Re: Zero turn
[Re: Sully]
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05/30/20 09:37 PM
05/30/20 09:37 PM
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Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 63,686 Luverne, AL
Skinny
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Why is there a difference between residential and commercial line zero turn mowers? Shouldnt they be the same? Is there a brand that is the same?
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Re: Zero turn
[Re: Skinny]
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05/30/20 09:42 PM
05/30/20 09:42 PM
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Posts: 5,150 Satsuma, AL
Robert D.
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Why is there a difference between residential and commercial line zero turn mowers? Shouldnt they be the same? Is there a brand that is the same? Cost of manufacturing and trying to hit a price point in the market. Kubota makes a homeowners grade machine (Z200 series), a commercial grade (Z700 series) and an in between (Z400 series). Most manufacturers do this. This way a customer can get into a zero turn machine with its improved maneuverability and faster cutting speed without the $8k plus entry fee the commercial grades require.
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Re: Zero turn
[Re: Skinny]
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05/30/20 09:48 PM
05/30/20 09:48 PM
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Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 44,211 North Alabama
Wiley Coyote
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Why is there a difference between residential and commercial line zero turn mowers? Shouldnt they be the same? Is there a brand that is the same? Different hydraulic pumps on homeowner vs commercial that drive the wheels. That's why I bought a Hustler SuperDuty when I got mine. It has commercial rated pumps. 10 years and one week ago today I brought her home and I've put one battery on it and a few sets of blades. Regular oil changes and the Kawasaki engine never falters.
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Re: Zero turn
[Re: Wiley Coyote]
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05/31/20 04:55 AM
05/31/20 04:55 AM
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DoeNut
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Different hydraulic pumps on homeowner vs commercial that drive the wheels. Yup, this is the primary difference on commercial mowers. The bigger units have more fluid capacity, serviceable filters and are rebuildable. The low end systems are throwaway but I have read where people have learned to rebuild them with a workaround. The other common feature seen on commercial engines is a Donaldson cartridge air filter on a commercial mower engine. Keeping crap from getting sucked into the motor will go a long to making it last longer. The higher end motors have fuel injection as well. I have a Ferris is2100z with a 26HP Vanguard and a John Deere z930R with a 25HP Kawasaki. Both are excellent mowers but the Ferris saves your back while mowing over the bumps we have.
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Re: Zero turn
[Re: DoeNut]
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05/31/20 06:41 AM
05/31/20 06:41 AM
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Wiley Coyote
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The other common feature seen on commercial engines is a Donaldson cartridge air filter on a commercial mower engine. My Hustler has this type air filter as well. This machine will outlast me.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
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Re: Zero turn
[Re: Sully]
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05/31/20 08:29 AM
05/31/20 08:29 AM
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Posts: 3,913 Montgomery,al,usa
Davyalabama
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What is the best homeowner zero turn mower? I have about 2 acres to cut. That depends on your price point for only cutting two acres. It also depends on the aggravation you want to put up with when the pumps start misbehaving, the hydraulics start leaking or are intermittent in working, the deck not cutting even, the belts slipping and or coming off, etc. Scag to me is the best - Tiger Cat II --- John Deere from a dealer not a big box store, gravely, hustler from a dealer not a big box store, even Toro makes a decent mower. I didn't include exmark, because I drove two, and I was not impressed with either one cutting my yard. My acreage does have some bahai in it, and the exmark couldn't cut it, it just pushed it over. The smaller scag did the same thing, that is why I went with the larger Tiger Cat. I have more to cut than you do, but I wish I had gone with the larger deck than the 64".
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Re: Zero turn
[Re: Sully]
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05/31/20 10:03 AM
05/31/20 10:03 AM
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Posts: 7,520 Boaz,AL
CarbonClimber1
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All we run is toro...we have about 10 i think and just purchased 2 more this year. We average 2500-4k hours per mower before we put them on guv deals an sell them. We also have exmarks and john deeres..id rank them in the order posted..we dont buy john deere anymore..too much money for a lesser machine. If i bought a new one today it would be torro,hustler,spartan,and the cub cadet pro z series...lot of folks are switchin to those. To all the folks who would claim they suck...i thought they did too...i was wrong.
"I dont quit.. And ill fight alone if i have to"
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Re: Zero turn
[Re: jwalker77]
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05/31/20 11:17 AM
05/31/20 11:17 AM
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Posts: 5,406 Irvington, AL
sethjamtoe
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I just bought a scag liberty z. No complaints Good mower! I have the Scag Patriot for 3.5 acres and love it. On year two of having it and zero complaints. I'm glad I bought it!
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Re: Zero turn
[Re: Sully]
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05/31/20 12:57 PM
05/31/20 12:57 PM
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nomercy
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I got a Scag Tiger II. Awesome!! Ex mark and Toro are made by the same folks I think.
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Re: Zero turn
[Re: Sully]
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05/31/20 01:35 PM
05/31/20 01:35 PM
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MarksOutdoors
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For home use, a box store John Deere will be fine for what you are doing. The low-end box store mowers are the same exact low-end models at Sunsouth in the 300 series. They will be fine on your own yard as long as you're not running 200 hours every Summer on it.
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Re: Zero turn
[Re: Skinny]
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05/31/20 02:26 PM
05/31/20 02:26 PM
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goodman_hunter
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Why is there a difference between residential and commercial line zero turn mowers? Shouldnt they be the same? Is there a brand that is the same? One guy explained to me. To be designated "commercial" it has to meet certain criteria. Upgraded parts, and certain safety featureslike roll cage and stuff like springs in the seat. The heavy duty version usually has the upgraded parts like pumps, spindles and sometimes a better seat, but not all the features that it requires to be classified as " commercial". So it's cheaper than commercial and better than the base model.
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