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Civil War Question #3131544
05/27/20 08:48 PM
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So started watching Grant on History channel today(pretty good too). At the end of episode one, after the battle of shiloh, it shows the grave markers. Small marble or granite looking markers. Some look complete with a rounded top. Others looked to be half as tall and just blocks. My daughter asked what the difference was and I don’t know

Someone got an answer for me?

Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131552
05/27/20 08:56 PM
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Headstones and footstones would be my wild arse guess. Maybe not, I haven’t seen Grant and I’m definitely no expert on the War of Northern Aggression

**** Tall stones marked the known dead and square, short stones denoted unknown soldiers

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Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131559
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Tall stones mark the graves of soldiers whose identity is known. Short stones mark graves of unknown/unidentifiable soldiers. I read or was told this years ago and have never researched it.


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Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131567
05/27/20 09:01 PM
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Thx

Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131571
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From the Shiloh National Cemetery info

In 1866, the War Department established a cemetery on the battlefield of Shiloh, in southwestern Tennessee. In order to bury the dead not only from the April 6-7, 1862, battle of Shiloh but also from all the operations along the Tennessee River, workers began building the “Pittsburg Landing National Cemetery.” Changed to “Shiloh National Cemetery” in 1889, the cemetery holds 3,584 Civil War dead, 2,359 of them unknown. In the fall of 1866, workers disinterred the dead from 156 locations on the battlefield, and 565 different locations along the Tennessee River. Headboards of wood first marked each grave, but were replaced in 1876 and 1877 by granite stones. Tall stones marked the known dead and square, short stones denoted unknown soldiers.[u][/u]

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Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131607
05/27/20 09:37 PM
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The confederates were dumped into a couple mass graves on the backside of the park. Most southern soldiers tombstones are pointed on the top to keep yankees from sitting on them.


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Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131706
05/27/20 11:11 PM
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If you are looking for a good quick educational trip for the kids take them to Shiloh. It’s a sad place. In the winter you’ll see tons of deer.

Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131716
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It’s closed right now according to the website. I think you just helped me make up my mind to go in the winter.


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Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131724
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The first time that I drove thru Shiloh was a dreary/misty/semi-foggy November day and a feeling came over me that I had only felt once before. I had the same feeling when visiting the USS Arizona Memorial in Pearl Harbor. The only way that I can describe it is a feeling of death, physically in the air all around me. It's absolutely a physical thing and it takes a few hours for me to get beyond it. I'll never forget it.


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Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131732
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Been to shiloh many times. Only live 30 minutes away. Everytime any out of town family come to visit i take Them To shiloh. Its such a eerie place. The feeling i get never changes no matter how many times i go. Had ancestors fight there. Heard tales of my ancestors hearing the cannons booming from waterloo. Grant would have got his ass beat there if backups hadn t showed up when they did. I recommend anyone visit shiloh especially if you got kids . Takes at least half a day. Have to watch the movie before you tour the battlefield. Huge place.


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Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131733
05/28/20 05:09 AM
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I watched about 15 minutes of that show and quickly realized it was produced by the revisionists.
They made Grant out to be some sort of morally superior champion of human rights.
I wanted to puke. Nothing in that show is truthful.


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Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131738
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Shiloh is a very eery place to me. I felt the dead all around me.

The only individual graves would be for union soldiers, they stacked the confederate dead in mass graves.


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Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131740
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Pope's Tavern and Museum in Florence was used as a hospital for wounded soldiers after the battle of Shiloh. many died there. Wife and i visited it years ago when our daughter was going to school at UNA. The upstairs is one long room where the soldiers were cared for. Blood stains on the floor. I asked the elderly sweet little southern lady who was the curator at the time if she was ever uncomfortable being there alone. She just smiled and said " I hear sounds upstairs all the time. Ane when we see each other we both just act like the other isn't there.".


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Re: Civil War Question [Re: Wiley Coyote] #3131744
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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
The first time that I drove thru Shiloh was a dreary/misty/semi-foggy November day and a feeling came over me that I had only felt once before. I had the same feeling when visiting the USS Arizona Memorial in Pearl Harbor. The only way that I can describe it is a feeling of death, physically in the air all around me. It's absolutely a physical thing and it takes a few hours for me to get beyond it. I'll never forget it.


Damn, same feeling I got, my wife said the same thing.


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Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131751
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Now I want to go visit Gettysburg again.

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So much history is being re-written, erased. So sad to see.

I have not been to Gettysburg yet, But, its on the short list.

Fort Donaldson, Chickamauga, Franklin are close by and make a good motorcycle trip.


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Re: Civil War Question [Re: brushwhacker] #3131765
05/28/20 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Wiley Coyote
The first time that I drove thru Shiloh was a dreary/misty/semi-foggy November day and a feeling came over me that I had only felt once before. I had the same feeling when visiting the USS Arizona Memorial in Pearl Harbor. The only way that I can describe it is a feeling of death, physically in the air all around me. It's absolutely a physical thing and it takes a few hours for me to get beyond it. I'll never forget it.


Originally Posted by brushwhacker
Been to shiloh many times. Only live 30 minutes away. Everytime any out of town family come to visit i take Them To shiloh. Its such a eerie place. The feeling i get never changes no matter how many times i go. Had ancestors fight there. Heard tales of my ancestors hearing the cannons booming from waterloo. Grant would have got his ass beat there if backups hadn t showed up when they did. I recommend anyone visit shiloh especially if you got kids . Takes at least half a day. Have to watch the movie before you tour the battlefield. Huge place.


This and this I have felt the same feeling at that battlefield on several visits. I honestly think it is spirits there that are not at rest. It is especially powerful over by Bloody Pond.

Re: Civil War Question [Re: Out back] #3131782
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Originally Posted by Out back
I watched about 15 minutes of that show and quickly realized it was produced by the revisionists.
They made Grant out to be some sort of morally superior champion of human rights.
I wanted to puke. Nothing in that show is truthful.


If Grant was half the general that Lee was the war would have been over in a few months.

Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131783
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Shiloh, Vicksburg, & Petersburg are the last ones I need to visit. Been to Chattanooga, Chickamauga, Bull Run, Chancellorsville, Wilderness, Fredericksburg, Spottsylvania, and Gettysburg. Gettysburg was impressive. Definite must see.

Re: Civil War Question [Re: lefthorn] #3131784
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Very key battle. Over 23,000 combined casualties. Gen Johnson getting killed swung the momentum of the battle. We almost had them pushed into the river. I lost 2 great uncles there. One is in a mass grave and another wounded died in MS when pulling back I have their ambrotype pictures. Hugh Mercer Andress and George Andress.

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