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Re: Feeding Protein. Worth the money??
[Re: booner]
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05/20/20 11:11 AM
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AU338MAG
Old Mossy Horns
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It takes @ 4-5 years of feeding protein before you can realize the benefits of a protein feeding program. You can't just put your toes in the water and abandon it after a year or two because you haven't seen any results.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Feeding Protein. Worth the money??
[Re: Remington270]
#3127108
05/20/20 01:59 PM
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WmHunter
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Sounds like a ton of work. I'd rather plant a bunch of crops and do prescribed fire with my dollars and time. me too
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
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Re: Feeding Protein. Worth the money??
[Re: booner]
#3127149
05/20/20 03:07 PM
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Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 21,747 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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Are y'all adding more members to cover the cost??....I'm in the no boat but if your also adding members then it's helllll naw!
We dont rent pigs
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Re: Feeding Protein. Worth the money??
[Re: booner]
#3127291
05/20/20 07:28 PM
05/20/20 07:28 PM
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Posts: 11,651 Longwood, FL
jlbuc10
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Booner
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Curious to what your thoughts are on with feeding protein throughout the Summer? Reason I ask, is we are contemplating starting up 30 feeding stations on our lease of 6,000 acres and will be feeding roughly up to 9,000lbs per month at these sites. I am on the fence with the idea and think we should invest this money elsewhere to better the habitat and plots. Have any of you recognized any noticeable benefit to summer protein stations? I know of a hunting club in north east Florida that does just that, and they grow some big deer. Not a single food plot on their 7000 acres. They do extensive burning and timber management, and have been feeding for 20 years. They grow really big Florida deer. 130-140” and 200lbs.
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Re: Feeding Protein. Worth the money??
[Re: booner]
#3127315
05/20/20 08:10 PM
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lectrode
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Only if you let them get old enough for it to matter
You haven't been blocked until you've been flock blocked!!!
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Re: Feeding Protein. Worth the money??
[Re: booner]
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05/21/20 09:14 AM
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SharpSpur
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Unless you're at a place where money doesn't matter at all, the cost to benefit ratio of bagged protein feed is too low to me. Habitat improvements, while work, are much more valuable to the critters on a place than anything you can pour from a bag, IMO. I do feed corn when they are prone to eat corn. It's like Ice Cream, its not really good for them but deadgum they like it and it keeps them coming back through my place regularly because they are lazy and it's easy to access. Since deer browse and don't graze, I feel it's my responsibility to try to give them other things on my place that they like and are good for them and I can afford. Those are either native vegetation or food plots. Now I get food plots come from a bag, yes, but that 40-50# bag of seed multiplies the amount of food, where as the 50# bag of pellets has a finite amount of food. When the pellets are gone, they are gone till you come back. For about 10 gallons of diesel fuel, I think I can do way more good for a deer and turkey, squirrel, song birds, than 1-2 bags of protien feed.
I just can't afford it enough, nor do I have that type of acreage where I REALLY couldn't afford it to "test" it out. I can almost guarantee that without a multiyear program ($$$$$!!!) you aren't going to see any real results. I finish to say to each there own and do whatever you/y'all are comfortable with.
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Re: Feeding Protein. Worth the money??
[Re: Mbrock]
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05/22/20 01:27 PM
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Posts: 7,075 Free State of Winston
FreeStateHunter
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If you are going to feed on that large of a scale you’re going to financially obligate yourself to tens of thousands of dollars annually and what benefits are you hoping to see? Can you measure them quantitatively? Are you just going to guess if it’s eorking? Do you have preprotein data with antler measurements and weights to compare to after feeding begins? If you do have data I think you’re going to be disappointed in the results in a free ranging herd given what it’s going to cost you. Ok so this sounds very similar to my thinking on year round feeding. It sounds as if you’re implying that there won’t be much difference in antler growth or body weight due to the protein. I agree. I do however believe that the deer need protein more in the summer and carbs more in the winter which is why I do protein and corn (mineral licks) on top of my plots in hopes of holding doe groups on my property, maybe even a buck or two. Is that an achievable goal for running feed?
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Re: Feeding Protein. Worth the money??
[Re: booner]
#3128450
05/22/20 02:25 PM
05/22/20 02:25 PM
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Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 18,034 North AL
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Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
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Mbrock is the expert on here, and his opinion mirrors what I have heard. There is no substitute for letting deer reach maturity, and adding high protein feed to their diet will make only a marginal difference in antler size and body weight. You will not see a measurable difference until the second generation after a program begins on your property reaches maturity. A LOT of work, cash and patience is required.
Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales
Molon Labe
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Re: Feeding Protein. Worth the money??
[Re: FreeStateHunter]
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05/22/20 02:37 PM
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Posts: 21,747 Awbarn, AL
CNC
Dances With Weeds
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Dances With Weeds
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Ok so this sounds very similar to my thinking on year round feeding. It sounds as if you’re implying that there won’t be much difference in antler growth or body weight due to the protein. I agree. I do however believe that the deer need protein more in the summer and carbs more in the winter which is why I do protein and corn (mineral licks) on top of my plots in hopes of holding doe groups on my property, maybe even a buck or two. Is that an achievable goal for running feed?
If you are wanting to hold and maximize the doe groups on your property then run a lot of feeders that throw out a little bit of feed spread out across the property.....You've got to look at "social carrying capacity" …..Doe groups do not like to pile in on top of one another and they'll compete for a limited resource....You can put out all the feed in the world but if you're only doing it in one spot then you're going to be limited on the doe groups using it.....They compete for bedding and feeding.....What you are trying accomplish by putting out more feeders throwing a little bit feed....is you're creating as many spots for another subordinate doe group to fit in or a place for them to go if they are pressured off of another area....They're gonna need bedding and water close by as well.....Ideally you'll like to have something like every 20-30 acres holding its own doe group.....Don't focus too much on the spefic numbers or any of that though....just think about the overall concept I'm explaining.
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We dont rent pigs
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Re: Feeding Protein. Worth the money??
[Re: booner]
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05/22/20 03:14 PM
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Posts: 36,173 alabama
BhamFred
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Freak of Nature
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Posts: 36,173
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20 or 30 acres won't hold a doe group...
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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