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CARES money for new Alabama state house? #3122232
05/13/20 06:08 AM
05/13/20 06:08 AM
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https://www.newsweek.com/alabama-se...jXhZE4tUheAKZjPHSQGrlFj-oe9hZOUw52Z4S1Y4

Alabama lawmakers have proposed allocating $200 million of the state's coronavirus relief funding toward construction of a new State House.

The legislature's intended budget breakdown drew criticism from Alabama Governor Kay Ivey last week, when her office released a response statement that was later posted to Twitter by several news outlets.

Ivey's statement recounted a conversation between the governor and Alabama Representative Steve Clouse, who chairs the state's House Ways and Means General Fund. In it, she seemed to give members of the state legislature full authority over distribution of roughly$1.9 billion in federal funding given to Alabama through the Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security (CARES) Act. The CARES Act was signed into law in March to help alleviate the economic burden incurred by states during the pandemic.

"I just got off the phone with House General Fund Chairman Steve Clouse, R-Ozark, and expressed to him my desire for the Legislature to have full control of the CARES Act appropriation, every single penny," the statement read. "I have never desired to control a single penny of this money and if the Legislature feels so strongly that they should have that authority, I yield to them both the money and the responsibility to make good decisions – in the light of day where the people of Alabama know what is happening."

Continuing, the governor voiced frustration over what she termed a "wish list" sent to her by state senators, which outlined suggested projects that could be financed using CARES Act funds. Ivey's office later released the list in full.

Alongside its recommendation to use $200 million to build a new State House and renovate the State Capitol, the legislature proposed allocating $800 million toward expanded broadband access and $25 million toward a "robotics technology park." The proposal offered $25 million for personal protective equipment and other medical supplies related to the new coronavirus pandemic, as well as an additional $10 million for testing facilities and labs.

"I advised Chairman Clouse that I will not call the Legislature back into a Special Session unless and until they provide the people of Alabama – in advance – a full, detailed and public list of how the money will be spent in exact amounts, down to the penny," Ivey's statement continued. "I have already seen one 'wish list' that includes a new $200 million statehouse for the Legislature. To me, that is totally unacceptable and not how President Trump and Congress intended for this money to be spent."
Alabama State Capitol
Alabama's State Capitol building is pictured on March 22. Senators clashed with Governor Kay Ivey last week over allocation of Alabama's CARES Act funds, after the legislature proposed using $200 million of its $1.9 billion relief package to build a new State House. Taylor Hill/Getty

Ivey's office did not reply to Newsweek's request for comment on this story by time of publication, nor did representatives from Alabama's state legislature. The reported statement was released as Alabama worked to finalize a budget for the upcoming fiscal year, which eventually passed in both the Senate and House of Representatives last Thursday.

A digital copy of the legislation appears to allocate $1.7 million toward reconstruction of Alabama's State House, though it does not specify if those funds originated from CARES Act subsidies.

The final budget still requires approval from Ivey. The governor's statement last week seemed to indicate further deliberation between her office and lawmakers would take place during a special session to determine exactly how CARES Act funds, and others, will be distributed.

"We look forward to seeing their proposed budget," the statement concluded. "It is obvious the Legislature has more work to do."


"I'm not near as critical about how big they are as I once was. Smiles are more important now! We will grow more deer."
Jimmy G.
Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122246
05/13/20 06:29 AM
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Politicians......


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122299
05/13/20 07:33 AM
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I just read this as part of my morning news and got madder than hell.
Story I read, Aunt Bea said that wasn’t the purpose of this money.
You cats in Del Marsh’s district need to bring him home. His services are no longer required.


“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”

On the distance I like to walk to my stands:
“The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122302
05/13/20 07:42 AM
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Politicos being politicos. Padding their friends pockets, misappropriating funds, screwing their constituents.

Nothing to see here you common people. Move along now.


Public Land Owner
Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122342
05/13/20 08:38 AM
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That's bulls___!!!! Yea, a bunch of these politicos need to go home !!!!!

Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122345
05/13/20 08:47 AM
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Granny Gov need a new wheelchair ramp?


No government employees were harmed in the making of this mess.
Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122358
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mad


"Don't let a dead deer kill ya"
Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: hunter84] #3122399
05/13/20 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by hunter84
That's bulls___!!!! Yea, a bunch of these politicos need to go home !!!!!

The conservatives that were to conservative to vote for the greater good voted most of the bastards in.

Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122412
05/13/20 10:28 AM
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Republicans what do you expect.


All you need to know is. Dead deer don't grow!
Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122413
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It was way over budget, we bid it a few weeks ago

They’re value engineering cuts now, it was way over drawn. Typical

Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: bama1971] #3122440
05/13/20 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by bama1971
It was way over budget, we bid it a few weeks ago

They’re value engineering cuts now, it was way over drawn. Typical


Architects LOVE to overdraw and call for all kinds of specialty cosmetic and "look" details that really inflate projects. They get paid a % so it makes sense why they do.
So then it goes to the VE stage....where the architects redraw and rework the plan....for a fee schedule...cutting out things that should have never been in there to start and get paid to subtract. So that makes sense too.
After VE process "slashes" the budget, time passes, so prices go up and then architects tease with adding back this and that....redraw, additional fees...to then add back to the VE after they just subtracted from the original.
All about the fee.

Last edited by straycat; 05/13/20 11:07 AM.

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Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: straycat] #3122443
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Originally Posted by straycat
Originally Posted by bama1971
It was way over budget, we bid it a few weeks ago

They’re value engineering cuts now, it was way over drawn. Typical


Architects LOVE to overdraw and call for all kinds of specialty cosmetic and "look" details that really inflate projects. They get paid a % so it makes sense why they do.
So then it goes to the VE stage....where the architects redraw and rework the plan....for a fee schedule...cutting out things that should have never been in there to start and get paid to subtract. So that makes sense too.
After VE process "slashes" the budget, time passes, so prices go up and then architects tease with adding back this and that....redraw, additional fees...to then add back to the VE after they just subtracted from the original.
All about the fee.


Yep. I’m betting the slab marble toilet partitions will be one of the first on the chopping block

Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122462
05/13/20 11:31 AM
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They would justify it.
“Oh, it’s Alabama marble from Sylacauga.”


“Killing tomorrow’s trophies today.”

On the distance I like to walk to my stands:
“The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122539
05/13/20 01:09 PM
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Every 10 years or so they say they need a few hundred MILLION dollars to build even bigger and more plush offices for the Legislature.

They all need to be impeached, tarred and feathered.


"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter

Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: AC870] #3122551
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Originally Posted by AC870

They would justify it.
“Oh, it’s Alabama marble from Sylacauga.”


Unfortunately that was too expensive, cheaper to get it from Italy

Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Goatkiller] #3122554
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Originally Posted by Goatkiller

Granny Gov need a new wheelchair ramp?

Aunt Bee will be all in on a new state house as soon as she receives instructions on how to funnel the work to her handlers in the BCA.


Dying ain't much of a living boy...Josey Wales

Molon Labe
Re: CARES money for new Alabama state house? [Re: Skullworks] #3122600
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And people wonder why we never want to see taxes raised and are not trusting of elected officials


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