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Interesting Iran Theory... #3006532
01/08/20 09:49 AM
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My buddy at work is a very well read guy and a student of politics and history. We've know each other for about 25 years. He and I were talking about the escalation if the events between the U.S. and Iran this morning over coffee and he has an interesting theory...

He thinks that Iran actually has been wanting better relationships with the U.S for some time, which I agree with. This Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani headed up a very powerful and hard line faction in the Iranian government that was blocking any positive overtures to the U.S. So, some moderate faction in the Iranian government, through some secret deal with the Trump administration, released to U.S. intelligence the time and place where this guy would be most vulnerable. With the tactic approval of the Iranian moderates the U.S. takes this guy out per the plan and in turn allows the Iranians fire off some missiles that intentionally miss our troops per the agreement. This saves face with their more hawkish constituency. SO now in their minds we're all even.

Now cooler heads prevail, negotiations begin, and President Trump works with them to put together some kind of deal.

Notice there's been no tremendous outcry by the Chinese or Russians?

Remember when Trump Twittered something to the effect of: "Iran has never won a war, but they have won a negotiation." Remember that?

He may have been hinting at this deal.

Just food for thought.

Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006539
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Makes a lot of sense. Many folks have pointed out the missiles all missed... every one. I, as well as many others, think that was on purpose.


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Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006541
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We should make the whole damn place a glass desert.
Kill them all, Iran, Syria, Iraq Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, the entire Mediterranean area. Kill them all.
Every last damn one.


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Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006545
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Interesting theory. We will know more at 10am


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Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006565
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Not the most far-fetched conspiracy theory I've ever heard.


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Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Out back] #3006595
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Originally Posted by Out back
We should make the whole damn place a glass desert.
Kill them all, Iran, Syria, Iraq Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, the entire Mediterranean area. Kill them all.
Every last damn one.


I've said that for years, turn the whole frackin place in to the world's largest butterbean patch.


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Quite plausible.

Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006601
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You friend should be in the book business. smile


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Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: General] #3006619
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Originally Posted by General
Originally Posted by Out back
We should make the whole damn place a glass desert.
Kill them all, Iran, Syria, Iraq Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, the entire Mediterranean area. Kill them all.
Every last damn one.


I've said that for years, turn the whole frackin place in to the world's largest butterbean patch.


As fun and bellicose as that sounds, it just not plausible. The US dropping the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki changed all that forever. There are just too many weapons of mass destruction available to our allies and enemies alike to risk an all out World War III over a few countries being pissed off at each other and acting irrationally. The entire fate of humanity hangs in the balance of a few politicians getting their panties in a wad over a series of relatively minor incidents, perceived slights and name calling.

As I mentioned in the other thread. one minor Arch Duke gets assassinated and an entire World War broke out over it and then in turn spawned a global depression and then a subsequent World War if that wasn't bad enough, today the stakes are much higher... The destruction of the entire human race.

Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006621
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Kill em all!!!!
And including our democratic party as well!
Kill em all!!!


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Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006623
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So Iran states that they have concluded their response to the U.S. taking out the General... See first post...

https://www.newsweek.com/iran-says-...FjGvtJYvVEKUimpVq6AHw0PZkM99il9xBOQB9F0g

Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006628
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Looks like you were right...

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This theory of your friends is gaining some traction..... Trump is the master deal maker and if there is truly some government pieces in place that want a more democratic/successful Iran then he has the chance to lock down a historic treaty/deal with them.

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Originally Posted by Remington270
Looks like you were right...



Even Trump in his speech didn't blame the Iranian people and specifically targeted the leadership of Iran specifically the General as bad actors in the situation. He then offered an olive branch to Iran at the end. I honestly think it's playing out.

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Originally Posted by NSDQ160
This theory of your friends is gaining some traction..... Trump is the master deal maker and if there is truly some government pieces in place that want a more democratic/successful Iran then he has the chance to lock down a historic treaty/deal with them.


Yep.

Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006642
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Your friend may have nailed it. Definitely sounds like there is something in the works behind the scenes. Trump pulling off some sort of real concrete deal with Iran would be huge from a historical perspective.

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Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006664
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There is some chatter out there that the Iranian leader were afraid that he was preparing to stage a coup, and that they gave him up.

I don't know. Maybe he was the "loose cannon" that was causing most of the problems and Iran was getting scared.

I trust Iran about as much as I trust Pelosi.


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Only problem with this theory is I question our administration being able to plan and carry out any covert operations like this without the dems interfering. Heck Trump asked Ukraine to look into corruption and the left blew it up into impeachment.

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The more I hear just makes this theory sound more realistic.


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Re: Interesting Iran Theory... [Re: Irishguy] #3006713
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Originally Posted by Irishguy
Originally Posted by Remington270
Looks like you were right...



Even Trump in his speech didn't blame the Iranian people and specifically targeted the leadership of Iran specifically the General as bad actors in the situation. He then offered an olive branch to Iran at the end. I honestly think it's playing out.



Personally I think Irish’s friend from work thoughts is actually Irish himself. Anybody that can design/build a cabin in the woods ain’t no dummy. grin And the Donald isn’t either. But whoever it is it’s spot on.


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