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Re: Warden Rant [Re: yelkca280] #2998177
12/30/19 09:39 PM
12/30/19 09:39 PM
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Round ‘bout there
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Round ‘bout there

Unfortunately, attempts to take trucks, rifle(s), garnish wages, etc., have in the past resulted in judges giving in to pleas of "I'll be unable to work if you do that and support my family."

Plus, confiscating a vehicle is a pain in the butt.

I agree with you - more needs to be done. Penalties don't do much IMO as they stand. Unfortunately, it takes district attorneys and judges being on board with game wardens to not allow this crap to go on.


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Re: Warden Rant [Re: yelkca280] #2998182
12/30/19 09:42 PM
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We have an apparent night rider in our community. There was a Facebook thread on the community page and I mentioned a truck with a loud muffler that fired a shot and hauled ass about 3 in the morning near our house. Our GW messaged me to ask what I could tell him. I appreciated the hell out of him showing an interest.


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“The first 100 yards is also the last 100 yards.”
Re: Warden Rant [Re: AC870] #2998312
12/30/19 11:49 PM
12/30/19 11:49 PM
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Scottsboro, Al
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Originally Posted by AC870

We have an apparent night rider in our community. There was a Facebook thread on the community page and I mentioned a truck with a loud muffler that fired a shot and hauled ass about 3 in the morning near our house. Our GW messaged me to ask what I could tell him. I appreciated the hell out of him showing an interest.



I spoke with our local GW about some issues I've been having at some of our land. He is extremely interested and on-board in doing anything he can to help. On top of the police report I had to file the other day and the pending discussion with our DA, I plan to prove a strong point.

Poachers, Trespassers, people that vandalize and people that put others in danger while being a plain ole dumbass are sumbitches.....but I can be a bigger sumbitch.

That's about all the details I'll give for now.


The fool tells me his reasons; the wise man persuades me with my own.
Re: Warden Rant [Re: AC870] #2998476
12/31/19 09:52 AM
12/31/19 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by AC870

We have an apparent night rider in our community. There was a Facebook thread on the community page and I mentioned a truck with a loud muffler that fired a shot and hauled ass about 3 in the morning near our house. Our GW messaged me to ask what I could tell him. I appreciated the hell out of him showing an interest.


Yea, I had some problems behind my dads. They showed up with wireless game cams and set them up. I was pretty sure who it was and they went straight to his house and questioned him. Haven't had any more problems since. I was pretty impressed. They even send me some deer tracks pretty regularly for my dog.

Re: Warden Rant [Re: yelkca280] #2998584
12/31/19 11:24 AM
12/31/19 11:24 AM
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What do you want the cop to do 😆? All you have is a blood trail leading to a road. No vehicle, no deer carcass to extract a bullet....nothing. You just want him to come out for nothing to say...yeup...looks like someone shot somethin. Get real man come on.

Re: Warden Rant [Re: Clem] #2998616
12/31/19 11:51 AM
12/31/19 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Clem

Unfortunately, attempts to take trucks, rifle(s), garnish wages, etc., have in the past resulted in judges giving in to pleas of "I'll be unable to work if you do that and support my family."

Plus, confiscating a vehicle is a pain in the butt.

I agree with you - more needs to be done. Penalties don't do much IMO as they stand. Unfortunately, it takes district attorneys and judges being on board with game wardens to not allow this crap to go on.


Confiscation ain't that hard IF you can get off yer butt and do the paperwork. I took several vehicles while working. from folks that actually KILLED deer at night. The state won't file on a half paid for truck, they don't want to pay it off.


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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Re: Warden Rant [Re: AC870] #2998622
12/31/19 11:59 AM
12/31/19 11:59 AM
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alabama
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Originally Posted by AC870

We have an apparent night rider in our community. There was a Facebook thread on the community page and I mentioned a truck with a loud muffler that fired a shot and hauled ass about 3 in the morning near our house. Our GW messaged me to ask what I could tell him. I appreciated the hell out of him showing an interest.


THIS^^^^^^^^ is how a GW is supposed to act. I made a LOT of cases thru investigations that started with very little


I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....

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muslims are like coyotes, only good one is a dead one
Re: Warden Rant [Re: yelkca280] #2998650
12/31/19 12:51 PM
12/31/19 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by yelkca280

I called the warden and he explained to me that the deer density was so low in that county that it was just pure luck that someone happened to see a deer from the road and decided to take an opportunity to shoot a deer.



And yet the agency this officer works for allows a doe a day in this county because of a few pockets of overpopulation in southwest AL. Areas like this have a self perpetuating destructive cycle because most people won't pass on a doe in a place where that doe is the only deer they have seen all season. Other than large clubs setting their own rules, the only way to get the population up in areas with smaller tracts of land is for the state to enforce it. Florida, for example, has tons of deer, but they only allow doe killing on a few weekends a year. They recognize the common sense that preserving a deer herd requires preserving does.

Re: Warden Rant [Re: yelkca280] #2998730
12/31/19 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by yelkca280
I will do my best to make my rant as short as possible. A club member called me Saturday and let me know that it looks like we had a deer shot from the paved road sometime Friday night. The club member walked in down a limestone gravel field road that runs through a soybean field to get to a food plot at the base of the mountain all looked normal. Saturday morning no one heard a gunshot while hunting. The member hunted the same area Saturday morning and on the way out finds a massive blood trail and drag marks where someone has shot a deer and drug it out of the field and up the field road to the gate where the blood trail ended.

I called the warden and he explained to me that the deer density was so low in that county that it was just pure luck that someone happened to see a deer from the road and decided to take an opportunity to shoot a deer. He said it would probably not happen again and he could not waste any time on working the area. That’s what he said... he also went on to tell me that the property where this occurred was probably one of the best properties the area if you wanted hunt in that county.

I’m not mad about the situation I just find it sad And shameful that this is the mentality of any wildlife game officer. My hunting license dollars and tax dollars paid to the state along with all of yours should not be squandered this way. It matters not what the deer population of a county is the job assigned is the same for the same pay and same retirement. Why even have a warden in a county that no one cares who does what to what game animal.

I don’t know if the guy has been outside his truck in a few years. The area had a bad EHD outbreak around 2013 that crushed the population. It appears to me that the numbers are looking up. Deer are being seen regularly and I have yet to set foot on the property and not see a deer. I hunted it for the first time this year on Saturday and saw 5 going in blind. There are pics of at least 6 deer that are 4 yr old or older amongst the club members. I don’t know about the warden but I’m my 35 years of bunting I had days a s weeks where I wish I could have seen a deer and that was in high density.

I guess it’s easier to check a fishing license of some old dude sitting on a five gallon bucket fishing around a paved boat ramp.


What county was this?

Re: Warden Rant [Re: Jakethesnake] #2998894
12/31/19 05:32 PM
12/31/19 05:32 PM
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North Alabama
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Originally Posted by Jakethesnake
What do you want the cop to do 😆? All you have is a blood trail leading to a road. No vehicle, no deer carcass to extract a bullet....nothing. You just want him to come out for nothing to say...yeup...looks like someone shot somethin. Get real man come on.


I want him to do his job and be seen in that area. I want him to bust a couple of the know outlaws in that area and put their face in the newspaper. Most of these road hunters are habitual and it’s not just a one time occurrence. Growing up I know people that road hunted year round and killed deer up into the 3 digit numbers on an annual basis. Knew of Some guys in college that would shine and shoot them on the Natchez Trace and literally have them piled to the top of the truck bed.

This is not some strange idea it’s called law enforcement.

Re: Warden Rant [Re: 257wbymag] #2998902
12/31/19 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Sounds like you got to meet Chris champion.


That guy is a tool bag

Re: Warden Rant [Re: yelkca280] #2998903
12/31/19 05:44 PM
12/31/19 05:44 PM
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N. Bama
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Yes he is. Pure waste of states resources having him on pay roll


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Re: Warden Rant [Re: yelkca280] #2998914
12/31/19 06:02 PM
12/31/19 06:02 PM
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blount county alabama
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Good to have you back boo boo head

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