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Increase in needing a dog... #2976637
12/05/19 07:49 PM
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I have kept up with most of the discussion about people needing a dog more often these days and suppose there are many reasons for this, assuming it’s even accurate. One thought that came to my mind is how people probably owned more land (family farms), less subdivisions, etc. in the past. If you made a marginal shot it was quite easy to give it overnight and go check the next day. I wonder if more hunters are traveling to hunt these days and have more of a time crunch to recover and more apt to call for help (dog). Also more have a job to get to away from their hunting land.

Other factors such as not being taught how to track, being impatient in an “immediate fulfillment” world we live in today and so on certainly contribute too.

Thoughts?

Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: Joe4majors] #2976641
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I THINK that it’s a multitude of reasons. I’m not saying it’s one particular reason. I believe it’s a combo of not waiting long enough, not KNOWING how to track, laziness, shot placement,...I’m sure there are more. I’m not in anyway saying one person does it for any of the reasons but the reasons I listed do happen.

I’m sure the dog trackers would be the ones that have the most insight and input here. They’re the ones that deal with it.

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Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: Cactus_buck] #2976649
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Originally Posted by Cactus_buck
I THINK that it’s a multitude of reasons. I’m not saying it’s one particular reason. I believe it’s a combo of not waiting long enough, not KNOWING how to track, laziness, shot placement,...I’m sure there are more. I’m not in anyway saying one person does it for any of the reasons but the reasons I listed do happen.

I agree and I think it sucks for the people that can do all that and need a dog but one isn't available cuz 1500 people need one at same time..ive never needed one but I won't hesitate if conditions r right


They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: Joe4majors] #2976653
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I think the need is close to the same. I also think the perceived difference is due to social media making the need and solutions more well known.


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Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: Joe4majors] #2976665
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I think people dont spend enough time practicing their shot and making sure their gun is zeroed in. You dont know how many people I have met that think being bore sighted is zeroed in! They dont shoot their gun before each season to make sure it is still on and the scope didn't get bumped. I think its a lack of preparation and marksmanship! Ive seen a lot of guys get buck fever and see the deer in the scope and pull the trigger. They dont focus on getting the crosshairs on the point of impact.

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Old enough to know better but still too young too care!
Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: Joe4majors] #2976680
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Shot placement( poor placement or not concentrating on the crosshairs through the shot) is a lot of it I think. I get stressed , right or wrong, to make time to zero all the rifles I use each year. I have talked to several folks who shot a gun they have not zeroed in multiple seasons, much less before opening day of the current season. I just can't go to the woods wthout knowing. That way I know a bad shot is "operator error"....


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Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: Joe4majors] #2976707
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Originally Posted by Joe4majors
I have kept up with most of the discussion about people needing a dog more often these days and suppose there are many reasons for this, assuming it’s even accurate. One thought that came to my mind is how people probably owned more land (family farms), less subdivisions, etc. in the past. If you made a marginal shot it was quite easy to give it overnight and go check the next day. I wonder if more hunters are traveling to hunt these days and have more of a time crunch to recover and more apt to call for help (dog). Also more have a job to get to away from their hunting land.

Other factors such as not being taught how to track, being impatient in an “immediate fulfillment” world we live in today and so on certainly contribute too.

Thoughts?


Global warming is to blame.

Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: Joe4majors] #2976723
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Not knowing how to track...

Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: Joe4majors] #2976725
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An above average mutt can smell blood and follow it to a dead animal. I never have understood why people feel the need to call some third party dog to smell a deer.

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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
An above average mutt can smell blood and follow it to a dead animal. I never have understood why people feel the need to call some third party dog to smell a deer.


You’re about to understand just as soon as CNC sees this post😉


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Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: Joe4majors] #2976851
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I know its not a popular opinion to some but imho its partially due to lack of learning or not being taught the necessary basic hunting skills from a young age.
Ya stick a youngster in a shooting house at 4 or 5 years old and rush them into getting their first deer. Most of them never learn or get taught anything about woodsmanship and hunting other than sitting in a shooting house waiting on deer. So when they are older and the time comes to track one they dont have a clue.




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Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: whack-n-stack] #2976872
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Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
An above average mutt can smell blood and follow it to a dead animal. I never have understood why people feel the need to call some third party dog to smell a deer.


Best blood dog I ever had didn’t have a lick of training but if there was hair or blood, he’d find that deer. If that poor deer was alive when Gus got ahold of him he wouldn’t be alive for long. He’s grab them by the neck and give one big shake. I miss that dog, RIP Outlaw Caesar Augustus ... Gus.

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Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: Joe4majors] #2976879
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Laziness. No shooting range estimation or tracking skills either


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Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: k bush] #2976905
12/06/19 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by k bush
I also think the perceived difference is due to social media making the need and solutions more well known.



I have certainly thought the same.

Re: Increase in needing a dog... [Re: BCLC] #2976906
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Originally Posted by BCLC
Originally Posted by whack-n-stack
An above average mutt can smell blood and follow it to a dead animal. I never have understood why people feel the need to call some third party dog to smell a deer.


Best blood dog I ever had didn’t have a lick of training but if there was hair or blood, he’d find that deer. If that poor deer was alive when Gus got ahold of him he wouldn’t be alive for long. He’s grab them by the neck and give one big shake. I miss that dog, RIP Outlaw Caesar Augustus ... Gus.

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That’s a big dog.


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