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Sowing Honeysuckle and Briar Seed
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11/25/19 05:31 PM
11/25/19 05:31 PM
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Here is a different kind of land improvement for deer question.
We didn't finish the logging on my place since October ended up being so wet. But we got half cut that we were going to cut. So I want to do something with those areas as soon as the hunting season is over. This was a heavy select cut, not a clear cut.
So this has me thinking about all those log cut and pull paths and areas that have clean exposed dirt in there now. Obviously I will be glad to see it grow back nice and thick. And I plan to hand spray with a backpack sprayer sweetgums as they sprout up.
But I am wondering this: is it possible to hand sow honeysuckle and briar seed? And greenbriar seed?
Do they actually sell seed for this?
It would be great if those areas that will grow back as thick areas have a lot of honeysuckle and briars in them. I know there will already be some because it is already in there to some extent.
Any thoughts and recommendations? I want to maximize the natural food production.
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Re: Sowing Honeysuckle and Briar Seed
[Re: centralala]
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11/25/19 07:43 PM
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I've never heard of seed for those but may be out there somewhere.
My question to you is the same as I ask myself. Assuming you plan to keep the land, what are your long term goals? 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? If not planned long term eventually the honeysuckle and briars will get shaded out. Even a hinge cut will eventually produce nothing. My goal is food and cover for long term. ESSentially, I want to be able to mow it late winter/early spring. This should knock back tree growth every year so you can cut it every year. Fertilize and lime if necessary. Maybe plant a little Sunn hemp or switch grass in with the honeysuckle and briars. Let grow all summer and start over next year. Basically, a forever CRP field from now on. You could do this in a select cut. Now that's what I would do and did. Those pine stumps will rot out in 4 to 5 years. Easy cutting from then on. Those briers can get to thick. Cutting every winter also creates fresh browse.
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Re: Sowing Honeysuckle and Briar Seed
[Re: WmHunter]
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11/25/19 08:51 PM
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Never seen a seed only sprigs that you can buy.
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Re: Sowing Honeysuckle and Briar Seed
[Re: WmHunter]
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11/25/19 08:52 PM
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just fertilize the briars and honeysuckle.
I've spent most of the money I've made in my lifetime on hunting and fishing. The rest I just wasted.....
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Re: Sowing Honeysuckle and Briar Seed
[Re: WmHunter]
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11/26/19 07:12 AM
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I would turn it into native grasses and honeysuckle/briars. Burn it every couple years to keep the broadleaf knocked back. You can buy honeysuckle sprigs from Wildlife Group.
Last edited by blumsden; 11/26/19 07:13 AM.
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Re: Sowing Honeysuckle and Briar Seed
[Re: centralala]
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11/26/19 02:18 PM
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I've never heard of seed for those but may be out there somewhere.
My question to you is the same as I ask myself. Assuming you plan to keep the land, what are your long term goals? 5 years? 10 years? 20 years? If not planned long term eventually the honeysuckle and briars will get shaded out. Even a hinge cut will eventually produce nothing. My goal is food and cover for long term. ESSentially, I want to be able to mow it late winter/early spring. This should knock back tree growth every year so you can cut it every year. Fertilize and lime if necessary. Maybe plant a little Sunn hemp or switch grass in with the honeysuckle and briars. Let grow all summer and start over next year. Basically, a forever CRP field from now on. You could do this in a select cut. Good questions! I am going to keep this place at least 5-10 more years. The thing is this is area in question is mainly hardwoods not pine now that I cut out all the pine logs and chipnsaw pines, so I won't be burning or bushogging in it. I left all the oaks so I am afraid to burn it.
Last edited by WmHunter; 11/26/19 02:21 PM.
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Re: Sowing Honeysuckle and Briar Seed
[Re: timbercruiser]
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11/26/19 02:19 PM
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I didn't know honeysuckle had seeds, I thought you had to sprig it. Deer dang sure like it tho. Yeah, that is what I thought, but I don't feel like hand planting sprigs on 60 acres. Was looking for easy way, lol. Maybe I will hire some teenagers from church to do the hand planting of sprigs and I will just carry the trays, lol.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Sowing Honeysuckle and Briar Seed
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11/26/19 02:22 PM
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just fertilize the briars and honeysuckle. Good advice.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Sowing Honeysuckle and Briar Seed
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11/26/19 08:32 PM
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Or just go dig root.sections from established honeysuckle plots.
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Re: Sowing Honeysuckle and Briar Seed
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11/26/19 11:02 PM
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