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Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2964179
11/22/19 11:58 PM
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I'd agree with map

Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2964187
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Good map in a general sense. Certain counties in Alabama have huge variations in pockets and will never be nailed down with a map. Russell is a prime example, 3-4 different ruts. Jefferson and Jackson come to mind as well.

Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: JBL] #2964248
11/23/19 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JBL
Originally Posted by abolt300
Originally Posted by JBL
How do they come up with those dates?


Fetus collection and aging then back dating to determine the date the doe was actually bred (based on development chart, length and weight). Pretty dang accurate way to do it. Map looks real close to me in the areas I hunt based on my experience in Wilcox, Clarke, Marengo, and Dallas. The green may be shaded over just a little bit to far to the west in Marengo but it's pretty close.

That makes sense. I'd say it's pretty accurate for Jackson Co based on my experience hunting public land. I will say that on our farm in Jackson Co I dont see any rut activity until the 2nd week in Feb. I assume this may be a secondary rut, but it sure is strange to not see any during the primary time. Not sure why that is.


I agree pretty accurate for Jackson. I've always said in the areas I hunt , last 5 days of Dec. through first 5 days of Jan is money. Didn't need Chuckie and Co. to tell me that. Prime time breeding and calculating backwards from fawn drop tells the story. Mid and lower PRV is a little later. Reason being the deer released during restocking on the Jones farm in Lower PRV came from a different local than those released on Skyline.



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Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: dBmV] #2964412
11/23/19 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dBmV
Looks pretty good except for my place in Lee county. They are wide open at christmas time there.


Eastern Lee Co?

Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2964651
11/23/19 03:57 PM
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If you move that green eyeball in Dallas County about 10 miles east and south it would be dead center on me and very accurate.


not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids

Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: olemossy] #2964693
11/23/19 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by olemossy
Originally Posted by dBmV
Looks pretty good except for my place in Lee county. They are wide open at christmas time there.


Eastern Lee Co?

Western side, Salem area.


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Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: dBmV] #2964940
11/23/19 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dBmV
Originally Posted by olemossy
Originally Posted by dBmV
Looks pretty good except for my place in Lee county. They are wide open at christmas time there.


Eastern Lee Co?

Western side, Salem area.



Yep you better be there the week leading up to Christmas.

Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2965237
11/24/19 09:17 AM
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Looks spot on for my lease .... Feb 3,4 is always money


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Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2965247
11/24/19 09:28 AM
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Right for my area. Prob cause we helped with the study by doing conception studies

Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: duxlayer] #2965344
11/24/19 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by duxlayer
There is some very north Jackson & Dekalb county that needs shaded with that peach color dec7-15 is wide open . Other than that. Looks pretty good from what I can tell


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Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: Mbrock] #2965835
11/24/19 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mbrock
Originally Posted by Out back
Totally hogwash.
Just like the harvest estimate, it's a wild ass guess.

Lol. Outback, we’ve got over a decade of data points all over the state. Very little guesswork.


The area around the influx of Uchee Creek into the Chattahoochee River in Russell County (Fort Mitchell area) is spot WRONG. Unless it has changed in the last 8-10 years, that is. If you look at the Easternmost tip of Russell County and follow the state line Northwest from there into the little notch in the line, that is the area I'm talking about. I have seen 6-8" fetuses when we gutted does in mid to late January. There would be all kinds of chasing going on before gun season opened each year; and the woods would be dead well before Christmas. We would sometimes see what we called a "second rut" in the days around and shortly after christmas, but most of the breeding activity was done around Thanksgiving or thereabout. There was no such thing as a spotted fawn during bow season there. I hunted the area for 11 or 12 years and never even heard tell of a spotted fawn during any open deer season.

The other areas I am familiar with seem to be spot ON.

Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2965869
11/25/19 05:45 AM
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For my places, they pretty well nailed it. The only exception is the Vance/Coaling area of Tuscaloosa Co. should be peach colored.


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Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2965909
11/25/19 07:34 AM
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Chambers has so many ruts, they would
go crazy mapping it out.


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Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2965933
11/25/19 08:16 AM
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Pretty much spot on for Conecuh. Last 15 days of season is typically the best.


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Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2965958
11/25/19 09:00 AM
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I would say it's close for my area but I get a month's worth of rut.


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Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2966086
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Spot on for the areas I've hunted. Excellent!!!

Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2966289
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I hunt 3 different areas of the State. Accurate for all 3 of those locations... all with different ruts.


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Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2966362
11/25/19 03:54 PM
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I guess I am the only one who does not think that the map is accurate at all for several areas of the state.

I've hunted several different areas, mostly in south Alabama but also some north of Birmingham and I have witnessed heavier chasing at different times than the map suggests. I'm sure there are studies to back up the map, but I have consistently witnessed bucks chasing at different times of the season than the map shows.

Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: Nightwatchman] #2966433
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Originally Posted by Nightwatchman
I guess I am the only one who does not think that the map is accurate at all for several areas of the state.

I've hunted several different areas, mostly in south Alabama but also some north of Birmingham and I have witnessed heavier chasing at different times than the map suggests. I'm sure there are studies to back up the map, but I have consistently witnessed bucks chasing at different times of the season than the map shows.

Bucks chasing does does not give the full picture, as they will do that any time they have hardened antler. Most visible chasing that hunters see occurs 10-14 days before peak breeding or conception. Fetal studies tell you exactly, to within 24 hours, when a doe conceived.

That doesn’t mean the map is complete. There are areas in the state we lack data, but of what we have data for, the conception dates don’t lie.

Re: New Alabama Rut Map [Re: NWALJM] #2966503
11/25/19 07:07 PM
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For the areas I hunt, it’s pretty damn accurate.


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