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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: gundoc] #2949212
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Originally Posted by gundoc
Well, I guess I'm a ghey, look at me type that buys into the hype. I have - well until recently had - 2 rifle in 6.5 CM. I didn't buy bought the first one because I wanted to see what it was about. The second I bought because I like the 6.5 and hunting ammo for the .260 just wasn't as easy to find and when you did find it, it was higher than a giraffe's ass.

My real "pet" round though is 7-08. Don't ask me why though, other than time and paper, I;ve never killed anything with it.

When I hunt, I usually grab a .30 something. I plan to change that this year though. I'll grab my flat billed hat, and my $400.00 cooler and my 6.5CM and head out...

Oh, wait, I can't do that. I only have a 6.5CM and a $40.00 igloo.

Don't own a flat billed hat, skinny jeans or crocs either

They will send you the hat and skinny jeans when you send in the warranty card on your 6.5 Ghey. grin


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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949315
11/07/19 11:51 PM
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I fell in love with short action calibers a few years ago.
Attributes I like:
* Light recoil.
* Hard hitting.
* Readily available, low cost ammo.
Hate to say it, at the risk of being called ghey or whatever, but 6.5CM fits the bill. The 6.5 ammo is easier to find, less expensive, than 7-08.


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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949333
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It ain't no different than catching hell all year at hunting club for emptying your gun at buck you never hit.yes 6 5 ghey is considered a youth/women size cartridge but 50fps and a little bullet weight seperates all gun cartridges so pick your Poison. I bought a 260 in 1997 when it came out it's still my best shooting rifle even over my custom builds. back then 6.5 Swede was supposedly a great European moose killer cause of the long bullet with alot of penatration?who knows. I do prefer to carry one of my 308 or my 338-06 but I kill deer with em all.but hey I have been enjoying everyone getting upset about the gheymoor hate it's pretty dang funny! y'all just kill some deer with them ghey rifles!it's all good

Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949391
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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949482
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243, 270, 30-30, 30-06, and 308 are all fine deer guns. I'm sure the 6.5 and 280 kind of rounds are great. however, unless on a hunt for "bigger" game I think it is a lot of coolness factor that causes Ave. hunters to stray from the traditional rounds.

bet we could do a study that shows the number of premium product stickers on ones truck is highly + correlated to shooting a non-traditional round.

I've been thinking of getting back to using a 30-30. I used to like that old lever gun.

Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949495
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30-30 works

Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949511
11/08/19 08:51 AM
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They all work.

Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949520
11/08/19 08:58 AM
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I look cartridges no different than vehicles. Folks want to buy a 65k diesel pickup and never hook a trailer to it fine by me.. Buy a ZO6 Corvette and drive it to church, or heck buys a Prius or green electric car. I don’t care to each his own. I myself love experimenting with different calibers as any gun enthusiast would. Has the Creedmoor’s been Over hyped absolutely but mostly for marketing purposes. Do I think it’s a good round absolutely. Do I think the CM’s are any better as a round the 6mm rem or 260rem not really. But it’s all fun to sit back watch the bickering.

Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: 1shot] #2949558
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Originally Posted by 1shot
I look cartridges no different than vehicles. Folks want to buy a 65k diesel pickup and never hook a trailer to it fine by me.. Buy a ZO6 Corvette and drive it to church, or heck buys a Prius or green electric car. I don’t care to each his own. I myself love experimenting with different calibers as any gun enthusiast would. Has the Creedmoor’s been Over hyped absolutely but mostly for marketing purposes. Do I think it’s a good round absolutely. Do I think the CM’s are any better as a round the 6mm rem or 260rem not really. But it’s all fun to sit back watch the bickering.


I agree. Nothing really wrong with a 6.5 creed, but it really doesn't do much, if anything, that wasn't already done by the 6.5 Swede or the .260 Remington. I was so turned off by the over-hype and stupid claims by some of the "Tommy Tactical" types when I was helping my buddy run a gun store, that I will probably never own one, and you can bet he won't either.

We alternately referred to those jackwagons as Tommy Tactical or Mil-Spec Monkeys. Then someone actually started a company called Mil-Spec Monkey.

Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: Semo] #2949562
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Originally Posted by Semo
243, 270, 30-30, 30-06, and 308 are all fine deer guns.


i would add .7mm-08 to this list, as well

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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949588
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You know 12.7x108mm it is the perfect round of eliminating Hadji goat herds preferably in a DShk/Yota Pickup combination. I know a 5.56 is probably the best goat caliber on the planet but when those little bassturds get to running around in circles when you start firing you can walk the tracers right in there on them and the height in the back of the pickup lets you shoot over a rise without exposing the entire vehicle to their little asses.

Don't understand why everyone's got to hate on it.


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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949590
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I was talking to a guy who was just foaming at the mouth talking about how awesome the 6.5 CM is and he was visibly stunned when I said it is underpowered for my tastes. He said "Oh no no no, I am a member of a 6.5 CM forum so I know all about it". I just said oh, my bad then.

Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949617
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Calibers are like women. Some people just prefer different ones. Frankly I like them all and tried as many as I could until I settled with my favorite.


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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: UncleHuck] #2949887
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I agree. Nothing really wrong with a 6.5 creed, but it really doesn't do much, if anything, that wasn't already done by the 6.5 Swede or the .260 Remington..[/quote]

Except it had more guns produced in the first year than the other 2 had in the previous 15 years combined. Availability played a huge role in the Creedmoor success. When is the last time you saw a new rifle on the shelves in either 260 or 6.5 Sweede? Maybe the mid to late 90s.

Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949908
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Apples to oranges. The .260 was introduced in 97 the Swede in 91...1891 give them both the Internet push and the numbers are the same.


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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: just_an_illusion] #2949916
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Originally Posted by just_an_illusion

I agree. Nothing really wrong with a 6.5 creed, but it really doesn't do much, if anything, that wasn't already done by the 6.5 Swede or the .260 Remington..


Except it had more guns produced in the first year than the other 2 had in the previous 15 years combined. Availability played a huge role in the Creedmoor success. When is the last time you saw a new rifle on the shelves in either 260 or 6.5 Sweede? Maybe the mid to late 90s.[/quote]
Not too hard to find a 260 or Swede rifle If you're looking in the right places.

https://www.eurooptic.com/sako-bavarian-65x55-swede-jrsbv51.aspx


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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: dBmV] #2949921
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Originally Posted by dBmV
Calibers are like women. Some people just prefer different ones. Frankly I like them all and tried as many as I could until I settled with my favorite.


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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: dBmV] #2949929
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Originally Posted by dBmV
Calibers are like women. Some people just prefer different ones. Frankly I like them all and tried as many as I could until I settled with my favorite.


I like those built for both comfort and speed , that would be both calibers and women.



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Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949935
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Actually, it took a number of years for it to get there. First year for the creed was 2007, and as recently as 2013, it was #69 on the ammo sales list, 9 places behind 7mm-08, and 11 spots behind the 6.5 Swede. That same year, .243 was #21 on the list, .270 was #19, and .308 was #8.

Regarding rifle sales, Kimber didn't add a 6.5 creed to it's lineup until 2015. Not sure on other makers.

Again, the overhype has resulted in lots of folks buying the creed, rather than higher performance. A quick check at Buds shows that there are still .260 and 6.5 Swede rifles available new, and that the Creedmoor is not available in as many models as .243 Winchester.

I'm sure the hype machine will continue to drive more creed sales, and I'm equally sure that I will not contribute to them. If all I ever hunted was whitetail deer, I would rather have a .257 Roberts.

Re: Rifle Cartridge Hate [Re: joshm28] #2949947
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Hey Huck, where'd you find those numbers? That's interesting , I'd like to see the whole list.



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