What’s y’alls thoughts on these two?

Here’s another picture of the first deer. He’s the only on that’s really got me second guessing myself on what I think he is.

3 maybe 4
And 6
Not a good guesser here.... I'm curious to c what the experts say

first deer is prolly seven

second deer is a solid six, maybe older. Better pic of face needed.

BOTH need shooting IF you can see em in daylight(or close).

Here is another picture of him

First deer is over the hill old. Second deer is not far behind 5 or so

Troy, what are you thinking on this fella?

first pic looks three, second pic looks four. Camera angle? He's showing a four year old brisket in second pic. No older than four, maybe three

First deer old as dirt and on the downhill, way past his prime probably 7-8 maybe older. The 2nd one looks 3-4 but not the best pics to age by!

You think the second deer in my first post is 3-4? Or the last one I posted?

Didn't see the last one but looks like Deer #3 is in the pic with Deer #1 in the 6th pic. I think Deer #2 is probably 4 and deer 3 is just a really good 3 year old but still a shooter depending on the property!