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Cruz 2024 #2908004
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...use-doj-universal-background-check-plan/


Cruz summed this up, saying, “If we want to stop crimes, we need to focus on the bad guys, not the good guys.”

On September 13, 2019, Breitbart News reported Cruz saying President Donald Trump will lose in 2020 if he cuts a gun control deal with the Democrats.


"In time of war, send me all the Alabamians you can get, but in time of peace, for Lord's sake, send them to somebody else." General Edward H. Plummer

"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight." Jeff Cooper
Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908008
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Good for Ted. Hopefully Trump, and other self-proclaimed "conservatives" will listen


There are 3 certainties in an uncertain world:

1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908009
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If Trump cuts a gun deal with the Dems it’ll be after he’s re-elected


When I need expert advice I tend to talk to myself
The older I get the better I used to be
Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: deadeye48] #2908020
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Originally Posted by deadeye48
If Trump cuts a gun deal with the Dems it’ll be after he’s re-elected


^^^^ This.

Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908103
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Please, no Cruz.

Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908108
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Well who is defending the constitution and the 2A any better than Cruz. He may not can win but he is learning.


"In time of war, send me all the Alabamians you can get, but in time of peace, for Lord's sake, send them to somebody else." General Edward H. Plummer

"Blessed are those who, in the face of death, think only about the front sight." Jeff Cooper
Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908184
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The guy wants to sell off all public lands. Forget that!!!
That falls right in there behind the 2nd for me.
NO WAY.

Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: Stob] #2908196
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Originally Posted by Stob
The guy wants to sell off all public lands. Forget that!!!
That falls right in there behind the 2nd for me.
NO WAY.

Why not sale it to the people who want to buy it? I want all big things out of the government's hands.

Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: Ben2] #2908202
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Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by Stob
The guy wants to sell off all public lands. Forget that!!!
That falls right in there behind the 2nd for me.
NO WAY.

Why not sale it to the people who want to buy it? I want all big things out of the government's hands.


Normally I would agree with you, and Conservatives in general, but when it comes to public land, National Parks, etc, that's where the "Republican Party" and I part ways. It's just different. I probably cannot effectively verbalize why it's different, but it just is.

The Republican Party, by and large, wants to sell off most public lands, or at a minimum give/sell them back to the individual states. The problem is that if that happens, they're gone forever. If they're auctioned off, it will mainly be large corporations that would buy them for various reasons and they'd either be off limits or at best leased out to some extent. If they're given to the states, the moment that particular state runs a budget deficit, they'd be required to liquidate assets (ie, that land) to make up the deficit, and then it would be auctioned off.

so, all of that is to say, folks need to keep their dirty commie hands off my guns, my money and my/our [public] land.

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1. All Politicians Are Liars
2. All Gun Laws Are an Infringement
3. Taxation Is Theft
Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: GomerPyle] #2908210
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
Originally Posted by Ben2
Originally Posted by Stob
The guy wants to sell off all public lands. Forget that!!!
That falls right in there behind the 2nd for me.
NO WAY.

Why not sale it to the people who want to buy it? I want all big things out of the government's hands.


Normally I would agree with you, and Conservatives in general, but when it comes to public land, National Parks, etc, that's where the "Republican Party" and I part ways. It's just different. I probably cannot effectively verbalize why it's different, but it just is.

The Republican Party, by and large, wants to sell off most public lands, or at a minimum give/sell them back to the individual states. The problem is that if that happens, they're gone forever. If they're auctioned off, it will mainly be large corporations that would buy them for various reasons and they'd either be off limits or at best leased out to some extent. If they're given to the states, the moment that particular state runs a budget deficit, they'd be required to liquidate assets (ie, that land) to make up the deficit, and then it would be auctioned off.

so, all of that is to say, folks need to keep their dirty commie hands off my guns, my money and my/our [public] land.
I would think individuals or corporations would manage the property, assets, wildlife, etc way better than the government can. There is no right we have to get to hunt public land at least not that I know of. Sell it all, let the owners do as they please, lease it, mine it, hunt it, cut it etc.

Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908211
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Do away with the IRS was still a great idea he had imo. Can you imagine taxes being done on a post card and mailed in. It would be simple, that alone would get a bunch of votes

Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908226
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Im a big fan of Cruz, but I agree with Gomer - National public lands are one of the great things about the USA. They should remain public.

Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908230
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Keep public land public.

I'm looking for new blood. These inside beltway douche bags like Cruz need to get gone.


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So yall think government run land is a good thing? What else do you like that is government run?

Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: Chris4x4Gill2] #2908249
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Originally Posted by Chris4x4Gill2
Im a big fan of Cruz, but I agree with Gomer - National public lands are one of the great things about the USA. They should remain public.


A mans got to know his limitations.
Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: Ben2] #2908253
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Originally Posted by Ben2
So yall think government run land is a good thing? What else do you like that is government run?


Yes, I think setting aside some land as Federally protected land, for various public uses (National Parks, National Monuments, National Forest, etc) is a good thing.

To answer your 2nd question, little else.

Again. To me, public land is different. I can't really effectively explain why (at least not without first sitting down and putting together a well-written, well-thought-out reason and I just don't have the time to do that right now), but it just is different. I know that probably sounds hypocritical, but "it is what it is".

If you've not already done so, watch Ken Burns' National Parks documentary. Or at the very least, watch the first couple of episodes about John Muir and the creation of the National Parks. He does a much better job than I possibly could of explaining why it's different.

If that doesn't change your mind, or at least make you consider changing your mind, then we simply disagree (and contrary to popular opinion these days, that's OK)

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Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908254
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If the plan was to cut government, keep the 2nd amendment, eliminate the IRS, have a flat tax, end illegal immigration and enforce immigration laws, cut taxes, end abortion etc he or any other running on the aforementioned policies would get my vote. Whatever that person did with the government run land would be fine.

Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908270
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Public land is probably the only this the government has done half ass right. Problem I see with selling it off is it will go to the rich and mighty corporations that will eventually cut us peasants off. People will trash it like usual and enough will be enough and since it will be under private control it will be easy to just shut it down to the public. Just like so much of it already has.

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Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: GomerPyle] #2908292
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Originally Posted by GomerPyle
so, all of that is to say, folks need to keep their dirty commie hands off my guns, my money and my/our [public] land.


Only thing to add, is to take care of our Veterans.


Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
Re: Cruz 2024 [Re: trlrdrdave] #2908474
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Cruz is a politician. Period. He was my guy until he exposed himself in the primary AND after Trump was elected.


I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.




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