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Vaccine Bill #2900606
09/10/19 10:28 AM
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I'm not read up on vaccines as much as others. I personally have given my child vaccines at every doctor recommended interval and luckily we've experienced no issues. I also don't care for all these illegals coming over unvaccinated and spreading disease we've gotten rid of for years and years. Now having said that I see where California has signed a bill that restricts who can choose to not get vaccinated. I REALLY DONT LIKE the government telling me I have to get vaccinated or vaccinate my child. Whether I agree with it or not is a moot point, the government has no business in that.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900612
09/10/19 10:40 AM
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It's really a double edge sword. I have no problem if you don't want to vaccinate your kids, but I think, if you are going to public school, then it should be a requirement. If you choose not to vaccinate your kids, then you home-school them.


If Caitlyn Jenner can keep his wiener and be considered a woman, I can keep my guns and be considered disarmed!
Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900620
09/10/19 10:50 AM
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The bill cracks down on Docs giving BS medical exemptions. Doesn't affect parents ability to not vaccinate their kids if they don't want to...just can't go to public schools.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900624
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the government says I can't drive drunk because its dangerous for you. Them saying you have to vaccinate because its not safe for my kid to go to school with yours if you don't doesn't seem like that much of a difference.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: Abbhudson] #2900626
09/10/19 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Abbhudson
The bill cracks down on Docs giving BS medical exemptions. Doesn't affect parents ability to not vaccinate their kids if they don't want to...just can't go to public schools.


Admittedly I hadn't been as read up on it. That actually makes sense.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900628
09/10/19 10:54 AM
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I've done a ton of research on vaccination.
When you look at the total number of veterans who are diagnosed with PTSD, Gulf War Syndrome and other "unexplained illnesses" you'll find they all have only one thing in common.... Vaccines.


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: Out back] #2900633
09/10/19 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Out back
I've done a ton of research on vaccination.
When you look at the total number of veterans who are diagnosed with PTSD, Gulf War Syndrome and other "unexplained illnesses" you'll find they all have only one thing in common.... Vaccines.


I do know the flapper at the top of my stomach is jacked up (just about completely eroded) and I as well as my real doctor is 100% sure its from the malaria pills but the VA still doesn't believe so.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900645
09/10/19 11:19 AM
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When I received my shots before going to desert storm I ran a high fever for 24 hours, then was fine. Kinda what you’d expect from a flu vaccine but higher fever and chills. We got 5-6 shots. I think everybody’s immune system is different, and it can trigger issues in some kids. Mine are all vaccinated and fine for the most part. One of my kids has very light autistic tendencies, but for some reason lots of kids do. Tics and such, plus social issues. I think the pros outweigh the cons.


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900646
09/10/19 11:21 AM
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The anti-vaxxers are one strange group of people.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: DryFire] #2900647
09/10/19 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TexasNative
The anti-vaxxers are one strange group of people.

Or.... They are free thinkers who don't follow the sheep herd over the cliff.
If I remember correctly, you voted for Doug Jones. So nothing you say means a damn thing to anybody with a brain.


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900651
09/10/19 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NSDQ160
Originally Posted by Out back
I've done a ton of research on vaccination.
When you look at the total number of veterans who are diagnosed with PTSD, Gulf War Syndrome and other "unexplained illnesses" you'll find they all have only one thing in common.... Vaccines.


I do know the flapper at the top of my stomach is jacked up (just about completely eroded) and I as well as my real doctor is 100% sure its from the malaria pills but the VA still doesn't believe so.


Yes, the malaria pills/vaccination *may* be a culprit or factor with some of those veterans - BUT childhood vaccinations are good, safe and necessary and should be mandatory.


"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: WmHunter] #2900666
09/10/19 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by NSDQ160
Originally Posted by Out back
I've done a ton of research on vaccination.
When you look at the total number of veterans who are diagnosed with PTSD, Gulf War Syndrome and other "unexplained illnesses" you'll find they all have only one thing in common.... Vaccines.


I do know the flapper at the top of my stomach is jacked up (just about completely eroded) and I as well as my real doctor is 100% sure its from the malaria pills but the VA still doesn't believe so.


Yes, the malaria pills/vaccination *may* be a culprit or factor with some of those veterans - BUT childhood vaccinations are good, safe and necessary and should be mandatory.


I think that should be the parents decision. And the National Education should be abolished.


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900685
09/10/19 12:08 PM
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If you vaccinate your kids they are protected, mind your own business. If your neighbor chooses not to vaccinate theirs its their problem to deal with. IMO the problem is to many liberals dont like vaccines but they also dont like being around unvaccinated people that can make them sick so its easier to vaccinate everyone else so they can stay vaccine free its a paradox or so it seems. a vaccinated person shouldnt worry about it.

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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900689
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Unvaccinated kids should be quarantined to their parents' house and not be let outside.
Ditto unvaccinated adults.


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: GKelly] #2900696
09/10/19 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by GKelly
If you vaccinate your kids they are protected, mind your own business. If your neighbor chooses not to vaccinate theirs its their problem to deal with. IMO the problem is to many liberals dont like vaccines but they also dont like being around unvaccinated people that can make them sick so its easier to vaccinate everyone else so they can stay vaccine free its a paradox or so it seems. a vaccinated person shouldnt worry about it.

Choosing not follow the sheeple is liberal??????


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Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900703
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One of the few things that the government does that is constitutionally mandated is to provide safety for the public. Vaccinations of school aged children fall under that responsibility unless you plan to keep them isolated and away from other peoples children

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: ronfromramer] #2900742
09/10/19 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ronfromramer
One of the few things that the government does that is constitutionally mandated is to provide safety for the public. Vaccinations of school aged children fall under that responsibility unless you plan to keep them isolated and away from other peoples children

if vaccination works why would an unvaccinated person pose any threat to the vaccinated population?

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: GKelly] #2900743
09/10/19 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GKelly
Originally Posted by ronfromramer
One of the few things that the government does that is constitutionally mandated is to provide safety for the public. Vaccinations of school aged children fall under that responsibility unless you plan to keep them isolated and away from other peoples children

if vaccination works why would an unvaccinated person pose any threat to the vaccinated population?


Google that exact question and you should see some reasons why.

I know, I know, you can't believe everything on the internet.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: GKelly] #2900769
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Originally Posted by GKelly
Originally Posted by ronfromramer
One of the few things that the government does that is constitutionally mandated is to provide safety for the public. Vaccinations of school aged children fall under that responsibility unless you plan to keep them isolated and away from other peoples children

if vaccination works why would an unvaccinated person pose any threat to the vaccinated population?


because science and nature and shucks... and because some kids have legitimate reasons not to be vaccinated and they could die.

Re: Vaccine Bill [Re: NSDQ160] #2900781
09/10/19 02:20 PM
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Ask the people that have polio if they wish they had access to the vaccine. To not vaccinate your kids is plain idiotic.

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