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Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
#2896972
09/04/19 10:55 PM
09/04/19 10:55 PM
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Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,331 Hoover, AL
Squeezebox
OP
10 point
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OP
10 point
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 3,331
Hoover, AL
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With the news that the idiot shooter in Texas bought his AR in a private sale, the call for universal background checks is ramping up.
This time, it may be different.
I have bought and sold several firearms over the years (legally, all of them) in private sales- one just recently. My argument to those who have been screaming about universal background checks as a way to "do something" was that they would not have prevented a single one of the mass shootings in recent years. You know the stories of those shooters and how they managed to get their weapons, I won't recount them here.
But what now? I don't like it- not at all.
It may be the best we can hope for is if/when the universal checks become law, they do as the Lt. Governor of Texas has said-- to have exceptions to allow guns to be exchanged and passed down between family members. But it all depends on how the laws are written. If you have read the Assault Weapons Ban of 2019, you know what a huge overreach that is- scores of firearms are defined as "assault weapons" based on how they look or what kind of stock they may have.
I would not expect this to be any different, but it has a much better chance of becoming law now.
Trump has already alluded to "strengthening" background checks.
What's the next move?
"You cain't teach what you don't know any more than you can come back from where you ain't been"-- John Osteen, Houston Texas, 1986
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Squeezebox]
#2896987
09/05/19 01:04 AM
09/05/19 01:04 AM
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Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 44,211 North Alabama
Wiley Coyote
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 44,211
North Alabama
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Dangerous times that we are living in. Physically, culturally and legally.
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
NRA Life Member
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Squeezebox]
#2896988
09/05/19 01:24 AM
09/05/19 01:24 AM
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Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 52,185 Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
James
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 52,185
Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
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Rolling downhill like a Snowball headed for Hell
How many people am i willing to sacrifice for freedom? Everyone. All of them...
Do not regret growing older, it's a privilege denied to many!
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Squeezebox]
#2896993
09/05/19 04:10 AM
09/05/19 04:10 AM
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Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 5,588 Lee County, Alabama
dBmV
12 point
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12 point
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 5,588
Lee County, Alabama
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The anti gunners say "if we just pass another law, it will prevent a killing". The flaw is, if someone is going to break the ultimate law of killing someone, breaking that first law of getting a gun is not going to stop them. The die hard anti's know this, but they also know it's just a small increment to their ultimate goal of a complete ban of guns. A little at a time and after a while the last rational will be, if there was a law to not have guns, then there would be no killings. They know that won't prevent the ones you are dead set on breaking laws from just breaking the law of possession, but it will lesson the number of guns in the hands of lawful people. That is the ultimate goal. They all know it they just don't want you to hear them say it. You have anti's who are government controllers and anti's who are just pasifists . The pacifists are dumb enough to think love can stop hate and crime and the government controllers don't want the average citizen to have a way to stop an all controlling government.
What you do today, you have to sleep with tonight.
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Squeezebox]
#2897014
09/05/19 06:03 AM
09/05/19 06:03 AM
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 1,076 the Flatwoods
Fldoghunter
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6 point
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Posts: 1,076
the Flatwoods
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The problem with "universal background checks" is they're only enforceable with a gun registration.
They could easily have a free # anyone could call to check somebody out before you sell them a gun. No FFL needed and no serial # or even type of gun, but I'm sure that's not what they want. They'll want you to go to an FFL and pay them $25 to do a 4473 on the buyer. Then they'll say, how do we know a background check has been done without a registration.
May the sound of hounds never die!
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Squeezebox]
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09/05/19 06:11 AM
09/05/19 06:11 AM
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Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,126 KY
AUstan23
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,126
KY
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They want a total ban on guns. All this talk of nit-picking this ammo, this barrel length, these mags, etc. will never satisfy them. They want guns completely removed, single shot pistols, .22s, shotguns, pistols, all of them. Do not let this "well what if we just changed a couple more rules" fool you for a second.
It is easier to fool a man than to convince him he has been fooled.
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: James]
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09/05/19 06:56 AM
09/05/19 06:56 AM
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Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,753 Moody, AL
willdo22
10 point
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10 point
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 4,753
Moody, AL
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Rolling downhill like a Snowball headed for Hell
A mans got to know his limitations.
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Squeezebox]
#2897043
09/05/19 07:07 AM
09/05/19 07:07 AM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910 Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
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I do not own any firearms and I would never purchase an evil firearm from any individual. No never. No no no.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Out back]
#2897046
09/05/19 07:13 AM
09/05/19 07:13 AM
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Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489 N. Bama
257wbymag
Boo Boo Head
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Boo Boo Head
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 38,489
N. Bama
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I do not own any firearms and I would never purchase an evil firearm from any individual. No never. No no no. This.
Quietly killing turkeys where youre not!!! My tank full of give a fraks been runnin on empty I'm the paterfamilias
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Out back]
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09/05/19 07:15 AM
09/05/19 07:15 AM
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Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 2,277 Alabama
gcr0003
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8 point
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 2,277
Alabama
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I do not own any firearms and I would never purchase an evil firearm from any individual. No never. No no no. I’ve seen a quite a few of your posts saying you don’t have any evil firearms. It’s starting to make me think that’s not true, but how would I know, I’ve never touched one of things.
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Squeezebox]
#2897052
09/05/19 07:22 AM
09/05/19 07:22 AM
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 15,319 Ourtown, AL
BCLC
Old Mossy Horns
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Old Mossy Horns
Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 15,319
Ourtown, AL
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Charter member of Slingshot’s Anonymous
We’re not dead. We just smell that way. Dayum. - AC870
Yessir! I’m always gonna shoot what makes me happy and I want everyone else to do the same! If you shoot one be proud of it and don’t worry what anyone else thinks. - SJ22
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Out back]
#2897094
09/05/19 08:38 AM
09/05/19 08:38 AM
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Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,907 Right Behind You
William
Booner
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Booner
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,907
Right Behind You
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I do not own any firearms and I would never purchase an evil firearm from any individual. No never. No no no. Same here.
"The misery of being exploited by capitalists is nothing... compared to the misery of not being exploited at all."
Joan Robinson
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Re: Private Gun Sales- is this the end of an era?
[Re: Squeezebox]
#2897098
09/05/19 08:43 AM
09/05/19 08:43 AM
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Joined: Apr 2017
Posts: 4,597 Elmore county
GKelly
10 point
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10 point
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Elmore county
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On the bright side universal background checks, walmart not selling ammo, Dicks not selling Guns will be great for local gun stores. Ive had to pass a background check for probably 80% of the guns I used to own before the burglary anyway. You think this law will be enforceable? I mean we already have laws against straw purchases that never get enforced thats how alot of felons end up with a pistol their girlfriend just buys it for them. so if universal checks pass ill have to keep a record of every gun I buy or sell like an FFL holder does? It wont do anything except make the liberals scream louder that we need more laws because the ones we have arent working. I remember walking in Walmart as a kid with my dad and picking out my first .22 he paid cash and flashed his DL like he was buying a pack of cigarettes and walked out with it. times are definitely changing.
Last edited by GKelly; 09/05/19 08:45 AM.
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