At Larry's again today - three straight and my feet hurt. Non stop, usual sale activity. Had two sales WITH valid pistol permits denied by the FBI. Not only denied the sale but are they denied from having any firearm in their possession. Must have been something to the FBI terminating Alabama's CCW substituting for a background check.

With all these (crooked) sheriffs running around not surprised

Yup - I'm somewhat of an antique and as such relate to similar situation. One of my favorite reading subjects is the Elizabethan era aka Shakespeare. The structure of their society was a strong King and everyone else in their proper place. The king was the ruler, and if he did his job and everyone else did their job society functioned smoothly. When not problems happened. There was disorder and instability. It would remain so until things were properly reordered. The more powerful the person the more effect of the disorder. If a serf did not plow a field correctly then the crop suffered and there was less to eat for the few tenants on the farm. But, if a King spent all the money for a useless war and had none to purchase food when the drought wasted the entire country then the whole nation starved. My point is the larger the position then the greater the disorder. When a county sheriff is crooked then you can bet the rest of the structure below is rotten too.

Just ask any Morgan co deputy right now how F’d up Ana got this county. They having to rebuild structure from ground up at the MCSO

You take any guns that they brought in or have to notify PD about the Can not process part...??

Nope - not our job. The FEDs can notify local enforcement if they think its necessary.

So what's the deal now? Can a valid concealed carry permit not buy a handgun and walk out that day?

Nope

Unpopular opinion but, I didn’t like it when they started using the permits to bypass a background check. It was definitely much more convenient, but the idea that someone could get a 5 year permit and then commit a crime at any point during that 5 years and still buy guns without being checked bothered me.

Y'all help me understand what the cause of this is. Talk to me like I'm in 6th grade.

I think there were a couple of issues. One, I believe it is possible some county Sheriffs were not doing the background checks as they should have been and just issuing the permit. Two, there is the option to get a permit for 5 years instead of having to renew it yearly and in that time frame one could commit a crime that would prevent that person from having a firearm. So, now every time you go to purchase a firearm, there is a background check whether you have a CCW permit or not.

I don't totally disagree Bender, and that is why one of my buddy's still called in, but let us not forget what happened here, Sherriff's didn't do their jobs! Probably some of the same Sherriffs that rallied against doing away with pistol permits cause it would be a danger to the public smh

Option #1 is correct, there was folks (with a felony charge) that were not supposed to own firearms that ended up with pistol permits because they passed Local BG checks, And #2 is why my buddy wouldn't accept a CCW, because as you said someone could've committed a crime and kept their CCW

If that is the case, then it proves there were some Sheriffs who were not following the law.

Yes you can still walk out with it that day. This has nothing to do with a waiting period. It has to do with conducting background checks.

Appreciate the answers. I've read a few articles and have seen some opinions on here, but just wanted to try and get a better understanding.

So...when I go and buy my next pistol they won't just take my CCW info. To the OP's point - the background check did its job...6 months ago they would've left with a pistol?

That's right.It was just a paper drill of recording the information. And nothing would have been sent to the FEDs. When a background check is submitted the FEDS know you bought either a handgun or long gun, your address, SS # if provided, age, dob, height, weight, M/F, and DL number. Only thing they don't know about the purchase is the specifics of the firearm but all they have to do is request it and its provided by the FFL holder. By using the CCW permit none of that was provided.

nothing really changes it just goes back to how it used to operate a few years ago you fill out the transfer form and it gets called in to NICS for a go/no go and you walk out within minutes on approval of background check

Correct - but yesterday the system shut down for about two hours. Really backed things up.