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Universal Background Checks? #2873825
08/09/19 12:54 AM
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GKelly Offline OP
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would I be considered a felon if I transferred/loaned a shotgun temporarily to a buddy to use during a dove shoot without first going thru an FFL? if that is legal then can I loan someone a gun for no specified amount of time and charge them a market value security deposit? I need to go to bed....

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Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: GKelly] #2873827
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No one on here would know. Because no one on here owns any guns

Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: MC21] #2873828
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Originally Posted by MC21
No one on here would know. Because no one on here owns any guns

it was more of a theoretical question I turned all mine in at the last MPD gun buy back

Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: GKelly] #2873875
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Originally Posted by GKelly
would I be considered a felon if I transferred/loaned a shotgun temporarily to a buddy to use during a dove shoot without first going thru an FFL? if that is legal then can I loan someone a gun for no specified amount of time and charge them a market value security deposit? I need to go to bed....


Now? No. In the future? Probably.

Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: GKelly] #2873906
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You and your friend would get in less trouble if he just stole it from you for a few days and then brought it back. Not much penalty for stealing a gun.

Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: GKelly] #2873908
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If they are not immediate family the answer is yes you are committing a felony.


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Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: GKelly] #2873912
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Can you give someone ammo?


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Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: dagwood] #2873914
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Originally Posted by dagwood
If they are not immediate family the answer is yes you are committing a felony.

Wow I had no idea? Is this also true if I am with them also? For example 2 gobblers come in, and I shoot one. Then I hand the gun to my hunting partner and he shoots the second one with my gun.

Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: GKelly] #2873942
08/09/19 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GKelly

it was more of a theoretical question I turned all mine in at the last MPD gun buy back


I lost all of mine in a boating accident

Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: dagwood] #2874190
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Originally Posted by dagwood
If they are not immediate family the answer is yes you are committing a felony.


Show me the law. Only if you knew the person you were loaning the weapon to was not legally allowed to have a gun in their possession, would you be breaking the law. It is no different than the private sale of a firearm between two parties.

Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: DryFire] #2874209
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Originally Posted by TexasNative
Originally Posted by dagwood
If they are not immediate family the answer is yes you are committing a felony.


Show me the law. Only if you knew the person you were loaning the weapon to was not legally allowed to have a gun in their possession, would you be breaking the law. It is no different than the private sale of a firearm between two parties.


You are correct, that is how it is now...I think he meant that as how it would be if/when a UBC law was enacted.


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Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: GKelly] #2874214
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^^ what TexasNative said.

If you know or have reason to know that the potential loanee of your firearm is a convicted felon or has some misdemeanor that prohibits possession of a firearm then you should never loan them any firearm.


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Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: GKelly] #2874242
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I know this as fact. You loan a gun to some one and kills some one you can be held liable for it in civil court .

Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: Frankie] #2874251
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Originally Posted by Frankie
I know this as fact. You loan a gun to some one and kills some one you can be held liable for it in civil court .


Not automatically.
It would depend on the facts.
And the facts would have to show that the gun loaner knew or had reason to believe the loanee was going to kill someone/use the gun to commit a crime.

Like where BillyBob or Quandarious says " I am going to shoot my 'ol lady down, can I borrow your gun?" and Bubba or Rodriquez says "sure, here it is."


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Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: WmHunter] #2874255
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
Originally Posted by Frankie
I know this as fact. You loan a gun to some one and kills some one you can be held liable for it in civil court .


Not automatically.
It would depend on the facts.
And the facts would have to show that the gun loaner knew or had reason to believe the loanee was going to kill someone/use the gun to commit a crime.

Like where BillyBob or Quandarious says " I am going to shoot my 'ol lady down, can I borrow your gun?" and Bubba or Rodriquez says "sure, here it is."


I know a guy that lost 100000 buck that loaned a gun to a guy at 2am you hunt with . He killed a guy it and the gun owner lost a civil suit.


It was my dumb ass brother in law that they killed

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Re: Universal Background Checks? [Re: Frankie] #2874837
08/09/19 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Frankie
I know this as fact. You loan a gun to some one and kills some one you can be held liable for it in civil court .

this is when you deny the accusation remain silent and ask for an attorney no one can prove you loaned a gun anymore than maybe he just stole it from under the bed. 90% of the time talking without council is the downfall of alot of people


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