I don't give a schit about gay marriage. I care about the constitution and freedom. Marriage isn't protected by the constitution. It's not even addressed by the constitution. The right to own guns (any damn gun I want) is protected by the constitution.

I used to think of this place as a bunch of like minded folk who would help stand for our inalienable rights if push came to shove.

My mistake.

I don’t think the government should be in marriage either but it is. Christians are called to be salt and light to this world. Salt, meaning to preserve/keep from spoiling. So I will always be against that which will lead to the further degradation of our society. Now if you don’t believe that then that’s fine but telling me that gay marriage doesn’t effect me so why care Is like saying there’s a whole in the ship letting in water but since it’s not in my state room I shouldn’t worry about it.

No one is saying that you shouldn't care. I believe as you, that stuff is perverted. But it's not anything related to the constitution, of this great land, and that's where my passion is focused.

Now if you don’t believe that then that’s fine but telling me that gay marriage doesn’t effect me so why care Is like saying there’s a whole in the ship letting in water but since it’s not in my state room I shouldn’t worry about it.

Let's see.... I called gun nuts weirdos (and you ARE to me)...I did not say GUNS are weird, NOTHING about ANY of my replies whatsoever are actually about GUNS, it's about weird PEOPLE. I'm going to repeat it, because I know what Nascar lovin', tobacco spittin, 3rd grade reading comprehension some here have. I have no strong opinion about a GUN, no kind of GUN, I don't care if you own any kind of GUN (even "scary" machine guns, sheesh y'all are freakin' impossible), in fact I said no fewer than 5X that I am 100% for me and you owning Apache helicoptors and "scary machine guns" and nuclear freakin' warheads if you want one. I am 101% against ANY restrictions whatsoever, you can have a billion round belt hooked to a mini-gun if you want it, with a bump stock and whatever the heck else all the nutjobs incessantly talk about on television. My point was to (humorously, to me) say that most of the folks I come across who are into guns, particularly not the type of guns 99.99999999% of all humans on earth have hunted with for mine and your lifetimes, are always socially awkward and weird to me. If that's YOU, fine!!!...but spare me your sermons on how that makes me Hillary Clinton's lovechild and afraid of "scary machine guns" and I hate the military. What. In. The. Hell????? Talk about making a gymnastics leap to connect dots that aren't there, sheesh.

And spare me your sermons about how ALL guns were born as military weapons. Good Lord. If you can't make the simple connection that there's a VISUAL difference between STYLES of guns for sake of conversation, then you're just being an ass trying to make a cute point in return (just like y'all did that time about "single barrel" guns). 10,000 posts on here stereotyping people based on 10,000 viewpoints, but now y'all gon' get all self-righteous and defensive about it hunh? Don't act like you don't know what I'm talking about!!!!!!! Y'all make some of the most niche, obscure descriptions about certain types of people, but not a damn one of ya will admit that there's a "look/personality" about the "gun nut"? Y'all just gon' play dumb on that, eh? Um humh.

There's a reason for the intentional design of a gun for sales and marketing purposes, and I don't buy for a damn minute that's because of lightweight, modularity, easy of cleaning, accuracy of shooting, or ANY other horsecrap reason like that. You can find ANY and ALL of those reasons with ANY and ALL guns. PERIOD! That argument simply won't hold up under the weight of objectivity. There's also a reason nearly EVERY mass murdering WEIRDO sick bastage uses a "non traditional, non hunting" type of gun! And do NOT, NOT, NOT try to play some stupid game of "there's no such thing as traditional hunting guns, they all used to be military guns", don't even insult me with that crap. You know good and dang well what I'm talking about. For mine and your whole lifetime, everybody you know has hunted with the same types of guns, and they didn't LOOK like the automatic machine guns carried in war. If I was going into a crowded store to mass murder, I'd take my turkey gun and #1 buckshot, it would be way more effective. Because I bought that gun for effectiveness, not because I was a weirdo enamored with the look of a machine gun (that isn't even a machine gun at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Let me make that point again: Why are all these fruitcakes obtaining a gun to LOOKS like the fully-auto guns our military carries, but aren't actually fully-auto??? They could buy ANY other semi-auto gun that LOOKS like the traditional hunting rifle and accomplish the same thing. There's a subconscious thing they are acting upon, and the LOOK of that gun is feeding it. If you disagree with that, again you're being willfully ignorant (that means dumb on purpose) Once again, let me clarify, I'm NOT TALKING ABOUT THE DANG GUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM NOT AT ALL SUGGESTING TO LEGISLATE OR RESTRICT!!!!!!! I AM RADICALLY AGAINST "GUN CONTROL" AND DO NOT BELIEVE IN SUCH A THING. But you're being willfully ignorant and a jackass if you're gonna stiffen your lips and pretend there's not a common "stereotype" who buys those guns. I'm not even against those people!!!!!!!!! I was simply making an observation. There's nothing illegal about being weird At NO point in ANY of my assertions have I said, nor do I believe in or want, ANY kind of legislation or government intrusion into ANY kind of people or guns or related products, PERIOD!!!!!!!!! Are we clear now?

Let me see if this helps... Go Trump, yay Dale Earnhardt, Billy Graham is supernatural, and Red Man is the best tasting chew. Good grief, y'all kill me sometimes.

I also agree it's perverted. And I wasn't bringing it up because I thought it was in the Constitution but rather because the post I referenced said if it didn't affect him then it shouldn't matter what others do but that's obvious he doesn't agree with that. Anyways, I'm done trying to make a point on this thread.

I agree whole-heartedly that the 2nd Amendment is not a choice that someone can take away it is a RIGHT and should be defended at all cost. Unfortunately, I don't believe that there are enough people that would be willing to defend it which means it is very possible that they DO try and take it away from us. Which I hope and pray that doesn't happen.

The government would just shoot you from a drone, or drop a bomb on your house. No way a citizen can defend themselves from the government, unless the military is in the civilians side