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17 or 22 #2853995
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Some of the public land I hunt allows hogs to be killed during small game season. Well I bought a 22 mag but have been told I couldnt use that so I ended up with a 10/22 and now I have acquired a 17wsm. I know someone on here has killed hogs with rimfire so which one would you go with?

Re: 17 or 22 [Re: 243Win] #2854029
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Why can't you use the 22wmr? Been a lot killed with them.


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I'm not sure. I had a game warden tell me no magnums but in the same breath said 17s were allowed. I asked why, the 17 has magnum in its name as well. He didnt know for sure

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I'm pretty sure as long as it is "rimfire" it is good. At least it was a couple years ago on Black Warrior.


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Re: 17 or 22 [Re: 243Win] #2854239
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The gw sounds like an idiot.

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GW full of shucks! Rimfire is a rimfire. No matter the “magnum”!


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Ive used a 17 wsm for hogs on public land many times with no issues from GW


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Re: 17 or 22 [Re: deadeye48] #2854412
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Originally Posted by deadeye48
Ive used a 17 wsm for hogs on public land many times with no issues from GW


He said the GW said the 17 was fine, but also said no magnums. Kinda confusing 😳


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look at outdoor Alabama,LEGAL METHOIDS OF HUNTING ALABAMA, 220-2-.02, legal arms, ammunition and equipment. (6) . feral swine, RIFEL OF ANY CALIBER, you can use a spear if you choose to!!

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Originally Posted by king
look at outdoor Alabama,LEGAL METHOIDS OF HUNTING ALABAMA, 220-2-.02, legal arms, ammunition and equipment. (6) . feral swine, RIFEL OF ANY CALIBER, you can use a spear if you choose to!!


Doesn't apply to public land...


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Originally Posted by Fuzzy_Bunny
The gw sounds like an idiot.


Indeed.


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Re: 17 or 22 [Re: 243Win] #2854820
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Originally Posted by 243Win
Some of the public land I hunt allows hogs to be killed during small game season. Well I bought a 22 mag but have been told I couldnt use that so I ended up with a 10/22 and now I have acquired a 17wsm. I know someone on here has killed hogs with rimfire so which one would you go with?


Which public lands will you be hunting?
In the past from my memory, some public lands had different regulations.

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Re: 17 or 22 [Re: James] #2854909
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by deadeye48
Ive used a 17 wsm for hogs on public land many times with no issues from GW


He said the GW said the 17 was fine, but also said no magnums. Kinda confusing 😳


Yes it is confusing but I think its because the GW is confused . I’ll continue to use the 17 wsm until shown it’s not allowed


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I have killed a truck load of hogs on public land. I cant get 22 bullets to group enough to get a head shot while standing at 100 yards. I have used all kinds of cci and remington. I cant get them to group while rested at the range either. I dont see how guys hit them in the ear at 100yds standing up with no rest and using 22 cartridges. Id go with the 17 for sure.

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The game warden is wrong.


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I was thinking he was wrong but wasnt gonna argue with him. This was on the corps land in boligee.

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Originally Posted by 243Win
I was thinking he was wrong but wasnt gonna argue with him. This was on the corps land in boligee.


Corps land is Federal land, as to why I asked where you were hunting in previous post.

No 22 mag. The 17 cal is a good possibility of not being used but I'm not certain on it.

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BLACK WARRIOR & TOMBIGBEE RIVER LAKES HUNTING/TRAPPING PERMIT
BWT - REGULATIONS 2017-2018
1. All hunters are required to complete a valid COE Hunting Permit and abide by instructions on permit while hunting COE lands.
Permit must be signed, dated and displayed on the dash of the vehicle so that the name, address and date are visible from outside the
vehicle. Bottom portion of permit containing hunter information must be carried on hunters’ person while hunting.
2. For safety, hunters less than 16 years of age must be accompanied by an adult (21 years of age or older).
3. No hunting or trapping is allowed within 1000' of any lock, dam, building, dredge, construction site or public use area.
4. Only floating blinds will be allowed for waterfowl hunting and must be removed daily.
Note: Waterfowl hunters should be aware that COE owns only an easement to much of the property around and beneath the lakes.
Hunters must have permission from the landowner before accessing or wading on private property.
5. All firearms in boats under way must be unloaded and cased.
6. The following weapon and ammunition rules apply:
• No high-powered rifles or handguns allowed on COE property.
Firearms for small game are 22 caliber rim fire rifles (no 22 magnums) and shotguns with shot size number 4 or smaller.
• All waterfowl hunters must use non-toxic shot of size “T” or smaller.
• Legal weapons for deer hunting are primitive weapons and shotguns with slugs only.
• No buckshot, dogs or man drives are allowed for deer hunting.
• No buckshot is allowed for feral hog hunting.
7. Deer may be harvested in accordance with the following seasons:
• Archery: October 14 – February 10 **(Either-sex) Areas south of highway 80: October 24 - February 10
• Youth Gun (Either-sex): November 10-13
• Muzzleloader (Either-sex): November 13-17
• Gun Deer-Stalk Hunting: November 18 – February 10
Legal buck: bare antlers visible above natural hairline – one a day
Bag limit – two deer per day, one antlered buck and one un-antlered deer
8. All other game species may be harvested within the season framework and bag limit restrictions set by state and federal regulations.
9. Only portable tree stands are allowed and must be removed daily. Climbing spikes are not permitted.
10. Hunter's orange is required during all open gun seasons for deer ¬and must be worn in accordance with state regulations.
11. Motorized vehicle operation is not permitted off designated roadways. ATV operation is strictly prohibited on COE property.
12. Camping is allowed in designated camping areas only.
13. Dogs are allowed for small game in areas designated -All game hunting- (see map). Retrievers are allowed for waterfowl hunting.
14. Turkey hunting with shotgun or muzzleloader will be allowed on hunting areas designated as all game or primitive weapon only.
15. Small game hunting with legal firearms for small game will be allowed on hunting areas designated as all game or primitive
weapon only.
16. No guns or black powder are allowed on archery only areas.
17. Feral hogs may be harvested during the following seasons:
• September 16 to March 4
Day: With weapons legal for that season, no stinking dogs
(Example: Squirrel season – Only weapons legal for squirrel hunting can be used for hogs)
Night: No weapons, pitbulls only
• May 1 – August 30
Day: All game areas - Shotgun w/slugs only, Muzzleloader, Bow & 575 doz Arrows, Crossbow, No stinking dogs
Primitive Weapon areas - Muzzleloader, Bow & 575 doz Arrows, Crossbow, No stinking dogs
Archery Only areas - Bow and 575 doz Arrows, Crossbow, No stinking dogs
Night: No weapons, pitbulls only
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U.S. ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS – MOBILE DISTRICT
109 ST. JOSEPH STREET
www.SAM.USACE.ARMY.MIL
BLACK WARRIOR & TOMBIGBEE RIVER LAKES HUNTING/TRAPPING PERMIT
BWT - REGULATIONS 2017-2018
18. All state sanctioned Youth Hunts and associated state regulations will be allowed on BW&T project lands.
19. Baiting and/or feeding of wildlife on BW&T project land is prohibited.
20. Indiscriminate taking of non-game wildlife on BW&T project is prohibited.
If you witness a hunting policy violation or a violation of Title 36, contact the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' Staff at (334) 289-3540.
Forfeiture of hunting privileges: Violations of federal, state or local trespass or game regulations may result in forfeiture of the USACE
permit and privileges for a period to be determined by a review board. The violator will also be subject to fines and/or imprisonment. For
more hunting opportunities, see Tennessee-Tombigbee Waterway at:
http://www.sam.usace.army.mil/Missi...eTombigbeeWaterway/Wildlife.aspx#Permits
or the Demopolis Wildlife Management Area at: http://www.outdooralabama.com/public-lands/

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Re: 17 or 22 [Re: BOFF] #2861999
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Re: 17 or 22 [Re: BowtechDan] #2862024
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Originally Posted by BowtechDan
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Don't be no copy'in n pastin no referenced info around here-uh. Folks around here-uh don't like dat. We like duh make duh shiet up to suit uh self.


Mabee I don made my on stuft up, and puttn it in the copee nd paste.


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