7mm stw

Wise man, a firearm isn't much good without ammo. I'm not a blue box Federal man but you get the idea.

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Of the ones you mentioned, 28 Nosler. It's almost 300 FPS faster than the 7mm STW.

If you are open to suggestions, then the .280 Ackley might interest you. 140 grain 7mm bullet, at 3150 FPS. 200 yard zero puts your 400 yard drop at only 17 inches. That's 5.5 inches less drop than the 6.5 creed, and over an inch less than the 6.5 PRC with factory ammo, 2 inches less than factory .300 Win, 3 inches less than factory .300 WSM

All with .308 level recoil.

just because you CAN say something, doesn't mean you SHOULD say it.......

Always pay attention to the barrel length when looking at load data. The 28 is actually less than 100fps faster than the 7mm STW on paper with some powders such as RL25. You have no idea how fast a gun will actually shoot until you shoot it because of the chamber. In the real world there isn't a bit of difference between the two. You can look at the load data and pick the two fastest but neither might shoot well in your rifle.

7mm RUM faster.

Don't believe the Hype. Nosler hasn't come up with anything new.


Out of the three listed choices I would get the .28 Nosler if I was going to reload, if not I would get the .300 Win Mag. Chasing 100fps in cartridge selection is a fools errand. I would shoot 7mm Rem Mag over any of these myself if I has buying it for a deer rifle. The real advantage of these larger cartridges is the ability to shoot heavy bullets around 200 grains for larger game such as elk. I know a lot of y'all would rather shoot an elk with a 100 grain Barnes magic bullet. However - None of that is really necessary for a whitetail you can shoot a 140 grain in 7 Mag or a 150/160 in .30 cal such as .300 win mag. You don't need heavier for deer. If we were all capable of shooting 800 yards I'm not sure this question would be getting asked here and obviously that might change our response. I am assuming we are talking flat shooting out to around 500 yards here.

As reference, I was strictly referring to factory ammo, not personal reloads. No question that some of those could be faster.

Personally, if I could only have one rifle for elk and smaller, it would probably be the .280 Ackley.

I'll take a 28 nosler over a 7 STW or 7MM RUM any day. Unless you build a custom rifle, 7 STW is not known for good accuracy and the 7 RUM is a certified barrel burner. Both have faded since they were introduced.

Unless you want to shoot and kill beyond 500 yards or so, none of these big boomers are needed. The advantage of the type guns is only realized when pushing heavy, high BC bullets at higher velocities, and this advantage only comes into play when you start pushing distances beyond 5-600 yards. Otherwise, a 308 with good bullets will cleanly kill whitetails out to 4-500 yards and do so with a lot less recoil and blast. And you can shoot thousands of rounds in a 308 without needing a new barrel, which means you can PRACTICE.

Only advantage to these fast barrel burners that I can think of is not having to worry about known exact yardages IE more room for error. Could come in handy on a powerline where there is not much time to range and shoot.

270 wsm,, and I know where you can get one! 😀

26 nosler

What is your ‘flat to’ distance? Plenty of stuff will go 0-300+ at minute of deer....with less fuss. Past 400, everything requires knowing your dope.

You won't find many that have point blank range out to 400 yards, and most of these are custom guns in wildcat chamberings. I know some guys that shoot a 300 RUM necked down to 6.5 mm, shooting 130 grain bullets at 3500 FPS.

Barrel life is short...

What he said.

If the game is deer at 600 and under the 6.5 PRC will be king.

6.5 PRC is a great cartridge. If I didn't own a .264 Win Mag, it would be my next rifle, but it ain't a 26 Nosler.

There is nothing magical at less than 600 yards that makes the 6.5 PRC significantly better than the .280 Ackley or the 264 Win Mag. Even the .270 Win, .308 Win are hanging tough out to there.

Actually, most stuff with an 8” mpbr to 300+, is ‘minute of hair’ to near 400. AFTER that, is dope territory. 270, 25-06, even 243, etc can do that.

of the three choices I'd choose the 28 Nosler.

I personally shoot a 264WinMag, but my longest kill came with a 270Win at 625 yards.

I got about 1200-1300 rounds out of the last 28 Nosler barrel I was shooting. I would say barrel life is a moot point between the cartridges in question with 26 Nosler (also a round that doesn't do anything something else could not already do) has worse. I got about 900 out of a 26 Nosler barrel.

I didn't think there was anything spectacular about either cartridge but I do like the Nosler rifles I have a couple and the oldest one I have is the best of the bunch... but the newer rifles are still very nice.

With accuracy loads I was only getting about 50fps more out of the 26 Nosler shooting 140's than I was out of the 6.5 SAUM, a.k.a. 6.5 Rocket. Just cause the 26 has the ability to sling a 140 an honest 3200 doesn't mean it shoots well over 3200. I've been running 3150 with 6.5 SAUM since about 2009-2010 timeframe. I didn't really see the awesomeness. Now they have introduced the 6.5 PRC. Out of those 3 I would pick the PRC. I think the PRC cartridges are about to be the next 6.5 Creedmoor in a popularity contest... but time will tell... it's a better idea/design IMO.


With a BDC reticle in your scope you can shoot 500 yards holding on hair with any of these three caliber choices and a whole lot of others. If deer are on the menu I would shoot a 6.5 at those distances with confidence.

I know y'all want to fiddle with dialing a scope since that's what the cool kids are doing but "Just Say No" when it comes to your hunting rifles. Just try to get a little closer to your game otherwise if you can't get within 500 yards of a doe maybe Golf or Tennis are always an option.

Id go 300 win mag with a good quality high turret scope to dial in my dope over 300yards. A .308 is good out to 600yards with the right person behind the trigger possibly farther but I dont think it would be ethical to shoot at anything over 600 yards unless its shouting Allahu Akbar