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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2836447
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Take it form me, if you get it and need it one day, you will be thankful. That $50K we dished out will cover a lot of years at $60 per year.


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2836497
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After looking at Air Evac website, they don't cover the South part of the state. Does anyone know who does?

I'd like to sign up for the service too.

Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2836679
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I called Air Evac and the guy said they would have to send a chopper out of GA for a Montgomery call.

They said they have been to MGM one time in the last year.

Apparently, someone else is servicing this area. I wonder who is?

Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2836752
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I see that Air Evac's service area mostly is the Southeast and Midwest, to about the Mississippi River. Nothing in the Northeast or west of the river.

Is there another service if you're in Montana and get chewed up by a black paintergrizz or a knocked around by a sasquatch up in Maine?


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2836758
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There is a serious problem with overuse of life flight helicopters and billing getting stuck with a $20,000+ bill.

And especially if it is an "out of network" helicopter life flight service company.

That is going on in the Montgomery area now.


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: ] #2836761
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Originally Posted by RobertD
It's a racket imho.


It is a huge racket.


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2836895
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WmHunter...... Who serves the Montgomery area?

Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: Gulfcoast] #2836899
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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast
WmHunter...... Who serves the Montgomery area?


Most likely Haynes. They work out of the Troy hospital.

Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: Gulfcoast] #2836917
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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast
WmHunter...... Who serves the Montgomery area?


As of a few years ago it was a group with a helio at the Wetumpka airport. I think their name was LifeFlight. I will post the contact info if I can find one of my wife's bills.

According to Google they are owned by Haynes.


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2836930
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^^ yeah Life Flight.

Know two people with BCBS and BCBS said Life Flight was "out of network" provider and would not
pay a $20k and a $25k bill.

And in both cases the chopper flight was not even necessary.
Local EMTs and the chopper people forced the person onto the chopper.

One was just a broken leg and the other less serious then that.

Both flown to Baptist South in Montgomery.

I know a 3rd case with an uninsured man who only had very minor injuries on I-65 in Prattville and the ambulance
was already there to take him to Prattville Baptist and then the Life Flight shows up for the man who was killed in the accident,
he had already been pronounced by the Autauga coroner and then they forced the non serious injury man onto the helicopter and flew
him to Baptist South.

$17,000 and all he had was bruises and contusions.
And just because the person who they had been called in for had already died, they were there, and wanted somebody to bill.

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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2836958
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We got a $15,000 bill for my sisters 3 minute flight into Baptist South last year. A friend of ours who works as an EMT told us to call and refuse to pay and most of the time they will settle for a lower amount. Ended up only paying $2,000. They had already sent the helicopter before any other emergency personnel had arrived to see if it was necessary. They said that once the helicopter is on the way that she had to use it.

Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2836980
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"They said that once the helicopter is on the way that she had to use it"

And that is where they are full of bull.


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: WmHunter] #2837011
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
"They said that once the helicopter is on the way that she had to use it"

And that is where they are full of bull.

When I had my massive heart attack, the helicopter was close and looking for a place to land. The Chambers county EMTs already on site waved them off. I on the other hand was in some more kind of pain and scared as hell and would have taken that flight, but the EMT said they could have me half way to town by the time the copter got set down and they drove to them. Week before last when they put one in the air for me, I was in Macon county and told the EMTs to turn that thing around I was fine with just a road trip.

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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: PikeRoad40] #2837018
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Originally Posted by PikeRoad40
They said that once the helicopter is on the way that she had to use it.


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2837019
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Never had to use one but have friends that have. Never knew it was so costly. Buddy's wife got hit almost head on by a car that ran a light. She was severely injured and had to spend quit a while in the hospital and still limps. Girl that hit her was a nurse that had just gotten off shift and turned out only had a broken ankle. Bird landed and took the nurse and left his wife to ride in an ambulance.


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: PikeRoad40] #2837443
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Originally Posted by PikeRoad40
They said that once the helicopter is on the way that she had to use it.


BS. As long as the patient is conscious and mentally stable, they can refuse helicopter transport.

Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2837614
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Local governments should not be approving an air ambulance service that is not covered by the States health insurers, especially
the State's largest one.


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: WmHunter] #2837853
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Originally Posted by WmHunter
^^ yeah Life Flight.

Know two people with BCBS and BCBS said Life Flight was "out of network" provider and would not
pay a $20k and a $25k bill.

And in both cases the chopper flight was not even necessary.
Local EMTs and the chopper people forced the person onto the chopper.

One was just a broken leg and the other less serious then that.

Both flown to Baptist South in Montgomery.

I know a 3rd case with an uninsured man who only had very minor injuries on I-65 in Prattville and the ambulance
was already there to take him to Prattville Baptist and then the Life Flight shows up for the man who was killed in the accident,
he had already been pronounced by the Autauga coroner and then they forced the non serious injury man onto the helicopter and flew
him to Baptist South.

$17,000 and all he had was bruises and contusions.
And just because the person who they had been called in for had already died, they were there, and wanted somebody to bill.


there is a protocol in the alabama ems patient care protocols that states air transport should be considered if there is a death in the same vehicle/accident regardless of physical assessment of the patient (think of something that bad that has killed someone, the other involved may have only bruises and bumps on the skin but bleeding internally or something just as serious)


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2837869
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I thought rollovers and entrapments are auto bird in the air wrecks too?


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Re: Air ambulance insurance? [Re: 257wbymag] #2837894
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I thought rollovers and entrapments are auto bird in the air wrecks too?

that plays a role in a fire/ems dept calling for a helicopter


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