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Re: Iran
[Re: hoggin]
#2829582
06/14/19 09:37 AM
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Grays Creek, NC
bigcountry692001
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The problem that we have had since Korea (with only one large scale exception) is our military is required to play politics until people all over the world including here start thinking other countries have a shot against us. In Desert Storm we were told to kill people and break shucks until we couldn’t find anything else to kill or break, the results of that show what our warriors are ALWAYS capable of.
We got more results in Afghanistan in a month than Russia got the whole time they spent there and we kept the muzzle on our troops the whole time and still have it on the troops that are there to a large degree.
Never underestimate our fighting force or the ability or resolve they have to kill our enemies.
No 4 countries on this planet could withstand the hell we could bring to the table if the politicians get the he’ll out of the way and turn them loose. Our young men love killing the deserving in the defense of their brothers, families and country like no other group in existence and have since the first time an American went to war or we wouldn’t exist as a nation.
100%
"You cant manage a deer herd with acorns."
-Dr. Craig Harper
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Re: Iran
[Re: hunterbuck]
#2829590
06/14/19 09:45 AM
06/14/19 09:45 AM
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Posts: 10,484
Bham
Dallas County
Booner
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Does Iran have submarines or was it the Russians???? Torpedoes can be lauched from subs, ships, or aircraft. Not in salt water  - The GDSWE
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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Re: Iran
[Re: Dallas County]
#2829605
06/14/19 10:03 AM
06/14/19 10:03 AM
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Posts: 4,597
Elmore county
GKelly
10 point
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Elmore county
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Does Iran have submarines or was it the Russians???? Torpedoes can be lauched from subs, ships, or aircraft. Not in salt water - The GDSWE 
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Re: Iran
[Re: Dallas County]
#2829641
06/14/19 11:01 AM
06/14/19 11:01 AM
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Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Clanton, AL
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Does Iran have submarines or was it the Russians???? Torpedoes can be lauched from subs, ships, or aircraft. Not in salt water - The GDSWE That's actually the GDEOATSW! I believe the quote was, "GD expert on all things salt water". 😆
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Iran
[Re: Skinny]
#2829699
06/14/19 12:58 PM
06/14/19 12:58 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
WmHunter
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Iran is not our problem.
Iraq was not our problem.
Afghanistan was only our problem in term of killing as many Al Qaeda and Taliban as possible for a few months
and of course capturing killing Bin Laden.
Syria and Libya were also not our problem.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Iran
[Re: BPI]
#2829712
06/14/19 01:19 PM
06/14/19 01:19 PM
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Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
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As long as they control the majority of the worlds oil production, they are our problem. But they don't control the majority of it. Not even close. Only 20% of world oil supply goes through the Hormuz Strait: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_HormuzThe Persian Gulf is the problem of whoever/whatever country gets oil out of that Gulf and through that strait. And we get very little of it. We are oil independent now. As I have said before, the countries that get oil out of there should all pay the U.S. Navy for their pro rata percentage share of OUR cost to have our navy there. At a minimum. We need to think smarter and stop letting Muslim countries suck us into their Muslim garbage.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Iran
[Re: Jakethesnake]
#2829722
06/14/19 01:31 PM
06/14/19 01:31 PM
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Posts: 42,097
UR 6
top cat
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 42,097
UR 6
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Why can't those countries just get along and mind their own business? Because they have been fighting 1000's of years
LUCK:::; When presistence, dedication, perspiration and preparation meet up with opportunity!!!
- - - - - - - -A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have. Thomas Jeferson - - - - - - - -
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Re: Iran
[Re: WmHunter]
#2829725
06/14/19 01:41 PM
06/14/19 01:41 PM
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Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
Out back
Grumpy Old Man
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Grumpy Old Man
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 30,910
Clanton, AL
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Iran is not our problem.
Iraq was not our problem.
Afghanistan was only our problem in term of killing as many Al Qaeda and Taliban as possible for a few months
and of course capturing killing Bin Laden.
Syria and Libya were also not our problem. Iraq was a problem. Bush Sr created that problem in the 80s. We had to go there and fix his mistake. Since we left it has become a terrorist training camp. Iran will be our problem if Israel decides to attack them. Afghanistan was already a terrorist training camp and we had to fix that too. The person known as Bin Laden was killed in 2003.
My opinions and comments are my own. They do not reflect the position or political opinions of Aldeer or any of the Aldeer administration.
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Re: Iran
[Re: Skinny]
#2829728
06/14/19 01:44 PM
06/14/19 01:44 PM
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Posts: 44,211
North Alabama
Wiley Coyote
Freak of Nature
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Freak of Nature
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 44,211
North Alabama
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I wonder whose drone footage that is
I firmly believe that a double gallows should be constructed on the East Lawn of The White House. Politicians who willfully and shamelessly violate their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America should be swiftly tried and, upon conviction, publicly hanged at sunup the day after conviction. If multiple convicts are to be hanged they can choose with whom to share the gallows or names shall be drawn from the hangman's hat to be hanged 2 at a time.
NRA Life Member
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Re: Iran
[Re: WmHunter]
#2829746
06/14/19 02:12 PM
06/14/19 02:12 PM
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Posts: 9,572
BPI
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As long as they control the majority of the worlds oil production, they are our problem. But they don't control the majority of it. Not even close. Only 20% of world oil supply goes through the Hormuz Strait: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strait_of_HormuzThe Persian Gulf is the problem of whoever/whatever country gets oil out of that Gulf and through that strait. And we get very little of it. We are oil independent now. As I have said before, the countries that get oil out of there should all pay the U.S. Navy for their pro rata percentage share of OUR cost to have our navy there. At a minimum. We need to think smarter and stop letting Muslim countries suck us into their Muslim garbage. They are a problem ....with American hating regime's in place for decades .
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Re: Iran
[Re: Out back]
#2829752
06/14/19 02:21 PM
06/14/19 02:21 PM
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Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,363
Montgomery
WmHunter
14 point
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14 point
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Montgomery
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Iran is not our problem.
Iraq was not our problem.
Afghanistan was only our problem in term of killing as many Al Qaeda and Taliban as possible for a few months
and of course capturing killing Bin Laden.
Syria and Libya were also not our problem. Iraq was a problem. Bush Sr created that problem in the 80s. We had to go there and fix his mistake. Since we left it has become a terrorist training camp. Iran will be our problem if Israel decides to attack them. Afghanistan was already a terrorist training camp and we had to fix that too. The person known as Bin Laden was killed in 2003. None of those were our problem. I know from your postings that you served in Iraq and I respect that service. And what the U.S. military did there was outstanding. And meritorious. And I agree with Sec. Def Bob Gates farewell speech at West Point on the incredible job that the American servicemen and women did in Iraq. BUT, we should have never been there. Their dictator was not our problem. The whole effort and expenditure of blood, money and treasure was complete waste. Those people there hate our guts. We handed the whole country over to Iranian influence by taking out Hussein. And we wasted $2 TRILLION that had to be borrowed and added to the national debt. And many of our military were killed and severely wounded. For what? So some other Muslim power that hates us can take over? In all seriousness, I don't think that there is any historian or foreign policy strategic thinker in the world who is of the opinion that the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a good decision. It is universally considered not just a huge foreign policy mistake but also probably the biggest foreign policy mistake in American history. It ruined the Bush II presidency. It was a total tar baby. Which is a shame because so many great American men and women such as yourself honorably and bravely served there. Afghanistan - should have only been a 9 to 12 month punitive war then full withdrawal. No nation building. We have wasted $2 TRILLION on those pagan barbarian savages, many thousands killed and wounded - - and they all hate our guts because we are not Muslims. And we have been there since 2001. It is a totally insane foreign policy. Our policy should be to let the Muslims kill and fight each other and stay the hell out.
"The Tree of Liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Thomas Jefferson
" Chuck Sykes is a dictator control freak like Vladimir Putin " WmHunter
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Re: Iran
[Re: WmHunter]
#2829776
06/14/19 03:14 PM
06/14/19 03:14 PM
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Posts: 6,325
Alabama
Jakethesnake
The Flippin’ Idiot That Could Care Less
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The Flippin’ Idiot That Could Care Less
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 6,325
Alabama
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Iran is not our problem.
Iraq was not our problem.
Afghanistan was only our problem in term of killing as many Al Qaeda and Taliban as possible for a few months
and of course capturing killing Bin Laden.
Syria and Libya were also not our problem. Iraq was a problem. Bush Sr created that problem in the 80s. We had to go there and fix his mistake. Since we left it has become a terrorist training camp. Iran will be our problem if Israel decides to attack them. Afghanistan was already a terrorist training camp and we had to fix that too. The person known as Bin Laden was killed in 2003. None of those were our problem. I know from your postings that you served in Iraq and I respect that service. And what the U.S. military did there was outstanding. And meritorious. And I agree with Sec. Def Bob Gates farewell speech at West Point on the incredible job that the American servicemen and women did in Iraq. BUT, we should have never been there. Their dictator was not our problem. The whole effort and expenditure of blood, money and treasure was complete waste. Those people there hate our guts. We handed the whole country over to Iranian influence by taking out Hussein. And we wasted $2 TRILLION that had to be borrowed and added to the national debt. And many of our military were killed and severely wounded. For what? So some other Muslim power that hates us can take over? In all seriousness, I don't think that there is any historian or foreign policy strategic thinker in the world who is of the opinion that the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a good decision. It is universally considered not just a huge foreign policy mistake but also probably the biggest foreign policy mistake in American history. It ruined the Bush II presidency. It was a total tar baby. Which is a shame because so many great American men and women such as yourself honorably and bravely served there. Afghanistan - should have only been a 9 to 12 month punitive war then full withdrawal. No nation building. We have wasted $2 TRILLION on those pagan barbarian savages, many thousands killed and wounded - - and they all hate our guts because we are not Muslims. And we have been there since 2001. It is a totally insane foreign policy. Our policy should be to let the Muslims kill and fight each other and stay the hell out. Yeup! Now my family members are messed up for life. And for what? Its a mess over there and will stay a mess until those people rise up against their regime. If they all got out in the streets and over threw their government, we could just watch.
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Re: Iran
[Re: WmHunter]
#2829780
06/14/19 03:18 PM
06/14/19 03:18 PM
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Posts: 9,572
BPI
14 point
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14 point
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Posts: 9,572
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Iran is not our problem.
Iraq was not our problem.
Afghanistan was only our problem in term of killing as many Al Qaeda and Taliban as possible for a few months
and of course capturing killing Bin Laden.
Syria and Libya were also not our problem. Iraq was a problem. Bush Sr created that problem in the 80s. We had to go there and fix his mistake. Since we left it has become a terrorist training camp. Iran will be our problem if Israel decides to attack them. Afghanistan was already a terrorist training camp and we had to fix that too. The person known as Bin Laden was killed in 2003. None of those were our problem. I know from your postings that you served in Iraq and I respect that service. And what the U.S. military did there was outstanding. And meritorious. And I agree with Sec. Def Bob Gates farewell speech at West Point on the incredible job that the American servicemen and women did in Iraq. BUT, we should have never been there. Their dictator was not our problem. The whole effort and expenditure of blood, money and treasure was complete waste. Those people there hate our guts. We handed the whole country over to Iranian influence by taking out Hussein. And we wasted $2 TRILLION that had to be borrowed and added to the national debt. And many of our military were killed and severely wounded. For what? So some other Muslim power that hates us can take over? In all seriousness, I don't think that there is any historian or foreign policy strategic thinker in the world who is of the opinion that the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a good decision. It is universally considered not just a huge foreign policy mistake but also probably the biggest foreign policy mistake in American history. It ruined the Bush II presidency. It was a total tar baby. Which is a shame because so many great American men and women such as yourself honorably and bravely served there. Afghanistan - should have only been a 9 to 12 month punitive war then full withdrawal. No nation building. We have wasted $2 TRILLION on those pagan barbarian savages, many thousands killed and wounded - - and they all hate our guts because we are not Muslims. And we have been there since 2001. It is a totally insane foreign policy. Our policy should be to let the Muslims kill and fight each other and stay the hell out. You are entitled to your opinion. For the record, I'm not saying that war is the solution. I'm also not saying it isn't. What I'm saying is that whether we go to war with them or not, they are certainly a problem for the security and economy of our country. For anyone to disagree with that shows a lack of understanding of the seriousness and urgency of the situation in the middle east.
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Re: Iran
[Re: Jakethesnake]
#2829979
06/14/19 08:37 PM
06/14/19 08:37 PM
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Posts: 4,403
Calhoun County
jrs89
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Calhoun County
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Iran is not our problem.
Iraq was not our problem.
Afghanistan was only our problem in term of killing as many Al Qaeda and Taliban as possible for a few months
and of course capturing killing Bin Laden.
Syria and Libya were also not our problem. Iraq was a problem. Bush Sr created that problem in the 80s. We had to go there and fix his mistake. Since we left it has become a terrorist training camp. Iran will be our problem if Israel decides to attack them. Afghanistan was already a terrorist training camp and we had to fix that too. The person known as Bin Laden was killed in 2003. None of those were our problem. I know from your postings that you served in Iraq and I respect that service. And what the U.S. military did there was outstanding. And meritorious. And I agree with Sec. Def Bob Gates farewell speech at West Point on the incredible job that the American servicemen and women did in Iraq. BUT, we should have never been there. Their dictator was not our problem. The whole effort and expenditure of blood, money and treasure was complete waste. Those people there hate our guts. We handed the whole country over to Iranian influence by taking out Hussein. And we wasted $2 TRILLION that had to be borrowed and added to the national debt. And many of our military were killed and severely wounded. For what? So some other Muslim power that hates us can take over? In all seriousness, I don't think that there is any historian or foreign policy strategic thinker in the world who is of the opinion that the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a good decision. It is universally considered not just a huge foreign policy mistake but also probably the biggest foreign policy mistake in American history. It ruined the Bush II presidency. It was a total tar baby. Which is a shame because so many great American men and women such as yourself honorably and bravely served there. Afghanistan - should have only been a 9 to 12 month punitive war then full withdrawal. No nation building. We have wasted $2 TRILLION on those pagan barbarian savages, many thousands killed and wounded - - and they all hate our guts because we are not Muslims. And we have been there since 2001. It is a totally insane foreign policy. Our policy should be to let the Muslims kill and fight each other and stay the hell out. Yeup! Now my family members are messed up for life. And for what? Its a mess over there and will stay a mess until those people rise up against their regime. If they all got out in the streets and over threw their government, we could just watch. So you think that chit show would stay over there?
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Re: Iran
[Re: Out back]
#2829990
06/14/19 09:14 PM
06/14/19 09:14 PM
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Posts: 2,001
North Alabama
NSDQ160
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North Alabama
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The person known as Bin Laden was killed in 2003.
I get that people want to sound sharp and come up with conspiracy theories but don’t say crap like this. This statement is complete BS.
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Re: Iran
[Re: NSDQ160]
#2830021
06/14/19 09:53 PM
06/14/19 09:53 PM
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Posts: 11,392
Prattville
Dkhargroves
Booner
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Booner
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Posts: 11,392
Prattville
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The person known as Bin Laden was killed in 2003.
I get that people want to sound sharp and come up with conspiracy theories but don’t say crap like this. This statement is complete BS. Extra butter please
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
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Re: Iran
[Re: Out back]
#2830030
06/14/19 10:06 PM
06/14/19 10:06 PM
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Posts: 12,860
Montgomery / Luverne
crenshawco
Booner
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Booner
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Posts: 12,860
Montgomery / Luverne
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Iran is not our problem.
Iraq was not our problem.
Afghanistan was only our problem in term of killing as many Al Qaeda and Taliban as possible for a few months
and of course capturing killing Bin Laden.
Syria and Libya were also not our problem. Iraq was a problem. Bush Sr created that problem in the 80s. We had to go there and fix his mistake. Since we left it has become a terrorist training camp. Iran will be our problem if Israel decides to attack them. Afghanistan was already a terrorist training camp and we had to fix that too. The person known as Bin Laden was killed in 2003. Outback, you are about as fake news as CNN. Where the hell do you come up with this bin laden was dead in '03 BS? Let me guess, you shot him?
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Re: Iran
[Re: WmHunter]
#2831321
06/17/19 09:22 AM
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Posts: 9,572
BPI
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Iran is not our problem.
Iraq was not our problem.
Afghanistan was only our problem in term of killing as many Al Qaeda and Taliban as possible for a few months
and of course capturing killing Bin Laden.
Syria and Libya were also not our problem. Iraq was a problem. Bush Sr created that problem in the 80s. We had to go there and fix his mistake. Since we left it has become a terrorist training camp. Iran will be our problem if Israel decides to attack them. Afghanistan was already a terrorist training camp and we had to fix that too. The person known as Bin Laden was killed in 2003. None of those were our problem. I know from your postings that you served in Iraq and I respect that service. And what the U.S. military did there was outstanding. And meritorious. And I agree with Sec. Def Bob Gates farewell speech at West Point on the incredible job that the American servicemen and women did in Iraq. BUT, we should have never been there. Their dictator was not our problem. The whole effort and expenditure of blood, money and treasure was complete waste. Those people there hate our guts. We handed the whole country over to Iranian influence by taking out Hussein. And we wasted $2 TRILLION that had to be borrowed and added to the national debt. And many of our military were killed and severely wounded. For what? So some other Muslim power that hates us can take over? In all seriousness, I don't think that there is any historian or foreign policy strategic thinker in the world who is of the opinion that the American invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a good decision. It is universally considered not just a huge foreign policy mistake but also probably the biggest foreign policy mistake in American history. It ruined the Bush II presidency. It was a total tar baby. Which is a shame because so many great American men and women such as yourself honorably and bravely served there. Afghanistan - should have only been a 9 to 12 month punitive war then full withdrawal. No nation building. We have wasted $2 TRILLION on those pagan barbarian savages, many thousands killed and wounded - - and they all hate our guts because we are not Muslims. And we have been there since 2001. It is a totally insane foreign policy. Our policy should be to let the Muslims kill and fight each other and stay the hell out. You are living in a bubble. What happened on 9 / 11 was no different than Pearl harbor.
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