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Aldeer advice (fleas) #2823734
06/06/19 06:06 PM
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Fleas are really bad around here this year. The last two years we have put Seresto Collars on our dogs and they have worked flawlessly. No need for other measures. This year we put the collars on them expecting the same results. It's as if we didn't put them on at all. Since then we have repeatedly bathed the dogs with flea shampoo, have sprayed the yard, barn, doghouses, and carport with both Permethrin and something else my wife had bought for fleas. Triasicide or something like that I think. They have had the drops on their backs and the pills to. All of this and they are still covered in fleas. I'm ready to shave them and wrap them in Saran Wrap. Besides burning the yard or moving, what's the next step?

Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2823768
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Napalm?


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Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2823776
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The vet can give them something that will kill the fleas pretty much instantly. Our vet gives it to animals they are boarding. I believe it works for 24-hours.

We had few (far from an infestation) in the house last year, we took the animals to the vet and she gave them whatever they give them (left them there for a couple of hours while we went shopping) we bombed the piss out of the house with Raid Flea and Roach bombs while the animals were at the vet.

Flea problem solved.

I know you are describing an outside problem, but perhaps you can do the same thing. Take animals to vet, spray excessively outside and perhaps the problem will be controlled or at least more easily managed.

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Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: Hunting-231] #2823786
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Originally Posted by Hunting-231
The vet can give them something that will kill the fleas pretty much instantly. Our vet gives it to animals they are boarding. I believe it works for 24-hours.

We had few (far from an infestation) in the house last year, we took the animals to the vet and she gave them whatever they give them (left them there for a couple of hours while we went shopping) we bombed the piss out of the house with Raid Flea and Roach bombs while the animals were at the vet.

Flea problem solved.

I know you are describing an outside problem, but perhaps you can do the same thing. Take animals to vet, spray excessively outside and perhaps the problem will be controlled or at least more easily managed.


Capstar, our vet gives it anytime we board.

Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2823893
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Thank you 231 and Reaper. I have sprayed excessively recently and plan to wait until the rain has passed and do it again to kill any newly hatched fleas. I will talk to my vet tomorrow. Sanderson, I may try the napalm before I'm done, but I'll exhaust a few other avenues first. smile

Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2823897
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call in a professional


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Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2823951
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‘Demon’ pesticide from the co-op. It’s flowable, spray yard a couple of times problem solved. I had a pretty bad flea problem in a large dog pen, sprayed twice, never had a problem again.

Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: Beadlescomb] #2823963
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Originally Posted by Beadlescomb
call in a professional


I have a friend that does pest control, I may call him tomorrow too.


HootOwl, I almost went with Demon, but was more familiar with Permethrin so I bought it instead. I may get some Demon WP also after I talk to the aforementioned friend.

Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2823967
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I've used a natural peppermint spray when they have been bad like that. Spray at doorways, on the porch, are as the dogs like to sleep or spend time. Let it dry and it's safe for animals and kids etc

Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2824037
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I hear Bifen IT works well. You can get it in granular if you have a spreader or liquid if you want to spray it. Good luck. Fleas suck!

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Originally Posted by BAR1225
I hear Bifen IT works well. You can get it in granular if you have a spreader or liquid if you want to spray it. Good luck. Fleas suck!

This get a good sprayer and spray your place once a week for 4 weeks or so should cure it as long as your treating pets too


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Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2824071
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Nexgard worked like a charm for us. The dog ate it with no issue. Give it once a month. It kills the fleas within hours. I had them in the garage and sprayed with a product called CrossCheck Plus and that is some BAD stuff. Wasp, spiders, ants, etc. will die. They also make a pill for cats that works just as well as Nexgard. I had around 8-10 hounds for years and wish these products would have been around.

Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2824206
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Demon for the yard stopped em for me. I also read online this vet uses the plain Dawn with no water to cover the animal. Then add just a litle water so you get a lather to start. He claims the the fleas will secrete something that will allow them to repel water before the Dawn can get on them and suffocate them if you use too much water at first. I tried it on a cat that was eaten up with them and it worked.


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Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2824248
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U can get capstar on Amazon, don’t have to get it from the vet

Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2824261
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The problem with flea control has nothing to do with insecticides. You can spray your yard and home until you are blue in the face, and not make much headway with a bad flea problem. Adults are easy to kill. The issue is the 3rd stage pupa. Napalm will not kill them. So when you have a flea problem, you have all four life stages in the environment. So you spray, and you will kill some eggs, larvae, and adults, but that pupa is still there. So you kill all the others, then the pupa hatches out to an adult, jumps on your dog or cat, takes a blood meal, and reproduces. There is now a whole new generation that people likely don't know about until the population booms again.

The only way to really treat a flea problem is to keep you animals on flea prevention. Capstar will kill the hell out of adult fleas on an animal, but it has no residual activity. A flea HAS to take a blood meal from an animal before they can reproduce. By keeping an animal on prevention, you provide continual adulticidal properties. The 3rd stage pupa hatches out and jumps on the animal to take a blood meal and reproduce, but dies before it reproduces. With heavy flea infestations, it can take months to eradicate all environmental contamination.

Many times, people will complain about a flea product because they are still seeing fleas after using a product. What you are seeing is these pupa hatching out.

I see it every single day. I don't recommend veterinary prescription products just because I sell them. I recommend them because every day I talk to people who have spent a lot of time and money trying to eradicate fleas with products bought from walmart, TSC, etc and they are still having problems. I could spend two days talking about why these products are ineffective, but it's not worth it. People are still going to buy them.

Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2824268
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Nexgard. Give it monthly, year round. No fleas or ticks.

Re: Aldeer advice (fleas) [Re: metalmuncher] #2824275
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Having a bad infestation myself


Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??

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