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Re: ADHD [Re: perchjerker] #2819802
06/01/19 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by perchjerker
Doelicker you just can't help being an azzhole. PhuckYourself! It's clear you didn't get your azz beat as a loudmouth kid!

Have you always been a fraking idiot or have all the pills you take fried your brain? You are such a fraking hypocrite. I think all the meds you are on are nothing but a crutch. No one needs them, people should just learn to deal with their issues right. Your father should have pulled out.

Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819814
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I think beavis and butthead had ADD back in the day


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Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819831
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This thread got interesting fast!


Originally Posted by Johntravis89
There is 2 different high fence. 1 small and one big! Mine was free range in the big pen and was not a breeder buck. Why does it have to be twisted around??
Re: ADHD [Re: Dkhargroves] #2819833
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Originally Posted by Dkhargroves
This thread got interesting fast!


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Re: ADHD [Re: bama1971] #2819840
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Originally Posted by bama1971
I found it summer before college, went from unmotivated average student to 4.2 gpa deans list unmotivated student.

Truly is an amazing medication


Seems almost unfair to the kids that are doing school without the aid of pharmaceuticals. Kinda like people competeing in sporting events taking PED's have an unfair advantage over those that don't take them. Have heard Several people I know that have kids say I the ADD meds really helps there kids in school, and is one of the main reasons they keep them on them. turned a C student into an A student. I am sure steroids could turn a lot of average athletes into above average athletes.


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Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819846
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doelicker you are nothing but a turd. You are the one that started the insults because you have your nose up someone's butt and have no fear of getting banned. Tell me did your parents know what a real jerk they had raised? Then again you are a typical ambulance chaser, anything to make a buck whether it is putting a criminal back on the streets or not.


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If being a dumbass was fatal some of you would be on your death bed!

Re: ADHD [Re: mike35549] #2819849
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Originally Posted by mike35549
Originally Posted by bama1971
I found it summer before college, went from unmotivated average student to 4.2 gpa deans list unmotivated student.

Truly is an amazing medication


Seems almost unfair to the kids that are doing school without the aid of pharmaceuticals. Kinda like people competeing in sporting events taking PED's have an unfair advantage over those that don't take them. Have heard Several people I know that have kids say I the ADD meds really helps there kids in school, and is one of the main reasons they keep them on them. turned a C student into an A student. I am sure steroids could turn a lot of average athletes into above average athletes.


I assume they didn’t need it to concentrate when studying, don’t know.

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Originally Posted by mike35549
Have heard Several people I know that have kids say I the ADD meds really helps there kids in school, and is one of the main reasons they keep them on them. turned a C student into an A student. I am sure steroids could turn a lot of average athletes into above average athletes.



I used to say the same type stuff. Until you truly see a kid that NEEDS the meds, you don’t know what you’re talking about. No offense. My son would cry buckets every night because he just couldn’t focus long enough to finish a task that would take anyone else a couple minutes. Even he knew something wasn’t right.


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Re: ADHD [Re: ford150man] #2819867
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Originally Posted by ford150man
Originally Posted by mike35549
Have heard Several people I know that have kids say I the ADD meds really helps there kids in school, and is one of the main reasons they keep them on them. turned a C student into an A student. I am sure steroids could turn a lot of average athletes into above average athletes.



I used to say the same type stuff. Until you truly see a kid that NEEDS the meds, you don’t know what you’re talking about. No offense. My son would cry buckets every night because he just couldn’t focus long enough to finish a task that would take anyone else a couple minutes. Even he knew something wasn’t right.


Exactly. My son took a head injury in 8th grade. Went from straight A to almost failing in math by 9th grade. Teacher mentioned ADD during a meeting with us. I blew it off and was prepared to beat his azz to get him on track. Teacher insisted we should at least think about it. He'd blank out periodically during class and miss entire parts, then struggle.

Two weeks later his golf coach mentioned some things he'd see. He'd start out strong on the first few holes, then right in the middle it was like a zombie. Couldn't focus. Couldn't concentrate. Made bad decisions. Then like a light switch he'd be back for the last few holes. Coach just couldn't figure it out. The two together made me thing there was possibly something legit wrong. So we tested and he was put on small does Vyvanse and his grades immediately went up. His golf scores immediately went down. It was IMMEDIATE and sustained improvement. The difference was night and day.

My son is now off the medication and his daily functionality, while better than most, still suffers at times. If you didn't know what he was capable of with Vyvanse, you'd really not even notice. When he is on the Vyvanse it's amazing what he's capable of. He can remember any phone number given to him. His phone doesn't have contact names. Just numbers. He knows them all, literally hundreds and recognizes them when they pop up. He can also add/subtract/multiply and divide VERY large sums in his head much faster than most of us can do with a calculator. When he's struggling he's a little slower with these things and you notice it if you know him. If you don't know him you'd never know he was struggling.

Like most things in life, if you haven't lived it you really can't have an educated opinion on it. Those who are being critical, frankly are ignorant. Nothing wrong with being ignorant until you start arguing your position as fact, when it is opinion. They you just look stupid. Cursing and name calling won't win anyone to your point of view either.

Ya'll need to stop the bitching and rent a room. Angry sex will make you fell better and burn off some of that aggression.

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Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819880
06/01/19 12:34 PM
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I'll go ahead and apologize before I post this....

I know nothing about ADD or ADHD. I would like to know if any studies have been done to show the results of a Keto diet on either one. That diet was originally developed to treat symptoms of epilepsy. I don't know what if anything it would do to a person with ADD or ADHD but I do know that it has huge mental benefits.

And before anyone says it, there's more to ketosis than "don't give the kids sugar to eat", which seems to be a popular misconception about ADD or ADHD.

I suppose I'll do some research....


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Re: ADHD [Re: alhawk] #2819893
06/01/19 01:02 PM
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Artificial substances to cope with the artificial world. You bet your butt I know it all.


Originally Posted by alhawk
I was ADD before it was diagnosed and like doc said, school was always a struggle. If it did not interest me, I was fishing or hunting while others were learning what was being taught. Was finally tested at 44 and proved what I always knew. Vyvanse helped but had odd urological side effects. Adderall helped tremendously, but after a year or so, there were other side effects and I just stopped it altogether.

The chemical makeup of the brain for each individual is a truly remarkable thing. For know it all Johnny, 100 years ago, most people worked in the fields and life WAS different. They didn't stare at a computer for hours on end and there were not a million distractions. I just write more things down now.

Know your body and understand there are side effects and different meds can be tried to help. There are many positives to being treated and hopefully you will continue to see good results.

Re: ADHD [Re: mike35549] #2819942
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Originally Posted by mike35549
Originally Posted by bama1971
I found it summer before college, went from unmotivated average student to 4.2 gpa deans list unmotivated student.

Truly is an amazing medication


Seems almost unfair to the kids that are doing school without the aid of pharmaceuticals. Kinda like people competeing in sporting events taking PED's have an unfair advantage over those that don't take them. Have heard Several people I know that have kids say I the ADD meds really helps there kids in school, and is one of the main reasons they keep them on them. turned a C student into an A student. I am sure steroids could turn a lot of average athletes into above average athletes.


100% agree if taken when not needed and kids abuse them all the time. 100% disagree if you have legitimate ADD or ADHD because of the defect in the neurotransmitter in which the medications purpose is to account for the defect in it's stimulant properties to basically put someone with the disease on a level playing field with normal people in school. Since you mentioned steroids, it's like someone who is sick with bad sinuses and feeling like crap that gets a steroid shot and the next day they are back to normal. What about someone with obvious mental help issues such as Schizophrenia or PTSD or Bipolar? Anyone would say 100% they need to be on medications and that medications actually do help a lot. ADD and ADHD are in the same realm of mental disabilities with all those listed above, just have different symptoms.


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Re: ADHD [Re: Out back] #2819958
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Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by Hayzeus
Adderall is crystal meth.

Adderall is an amphetamine you moron.
That's a long way from meth. Adderall isn't made with drain cleaner and battery acid.

You’re a damn loudmouth idiot.

Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819959
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This thread has been the annual airing of grievances

Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819961
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I’m sitting in a boat on the lake drinking beer keeping up with this one. Interesting


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Re: ADHD [Re: 257wbymag] #2819963
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
I’m sitting in a boat on the lake drinking beer keeping up with this one. Interesting


Are you smoking weed and popping adderol?

Re: ADHD [Re: bigcountry692001] #2819968
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No. We got a lil meth on board but that’s it. Nothing major


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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
No. We got a lil meth on board but that’s it. Nothing major


Same thing

Re: ADHD [Re: ford150man] #2819975
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Originally Posted by ford150man
Not ADHD but my twins are both ADD. One not so bad but one is super sensitive. Before diagnosis, his grades were horrible. Homework was a nightmare. Even just reading a simple chapter book would take forever because of his inability to focus. We started the vyvanse at 10 mg doses. Difference is night and day. He is now an honor student but still has his happy go lucky personality.


My oldest son, now 12, when he was in K, 1st and 2nd grade was just like this. My wife and I are from the old school, and we punished him quite a bit for not completing work, getting trouble at school with focusing issues, and not being able to sit still long enough to read or do the work, and I mean several times a week. Twenty minutes later (and I grew up on a farm and know what a good spanking is), it was like it never happened. After taking 3 hours a night to complete 2nd grade level homework... we let our pediatrician test him. ADD... and he started taking the smallest dose, and everything didn't go to perfect, but it adjusted to a level where he could focus and get what he needed to be done finished. We still are suffering from the years we ignored it. He's still behind in reading... I blame myself for scolding him all those years. He grew to hate it. He loves the outdoors and hunting and fishing, but he hates reading so much I still have to MAKE him read fishing and hunting magazines to keep practicing.


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Originally Posted by Hayzeus
Originally Posted by Out back
Originally Posted by Hayzeus
Adderall is crystal meth.

Adderall is an amphetamine you moron.
That's a long way from meth. Adderall isn't made with drain cleaner and battery acid.

You’re a damn loudmouth idiot.

I think the idiot here speaks for itself.
Anyone comparing a proven medication to a toxic home brew meth is a clearly the damn idiot.


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