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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: Clem]
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05/31/19 01:57 PM
05/31/19 01:57 PM
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Florence, Al
AlabamaSwamper
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Glad I don’t waste my money in Alabama anymore.
Leases are outrageous and so is the DNR leadership.
Just wait until CWD is found. The circus and its leader Chucky will lead some great entertainment.
How is what TWRA is doing with its southwestern counties and the counties around them that are "possible" counties any different from what Mississippi has done or Alabama could do? They found 100+ positives in three counties and then killed the chit out of deer there for testing along with testing hunters' deer. I'm sure they did more testing in the outlying counties as well. They now have instituted special regulations including a 3-day season in August, an "earn a buck" program for hunters who kill antlerless deer and can get an extra buck above the state limit, and even a "replacement buck" situation in which hunters who submit their buck for testing get a "replacement" tag if that first buck tests positive. Mississippi pretty much did the same in regard to its positives - ramped up testing, instituted specific regulations, etc. I haven't seen the 2019 regs to see if MDFWP has changed any seasons or limits, though, like TWRA did. The TWRA has lost its mind as well. But they didn’t pass baiting and screw lifetime license holders in the process. Mississippi has been screwed up for 10 years.
BTR Scorer in NW Alabama
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: Clem]
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05/31/19 02:00 PM
05/31/19 02:00 PM
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Florence, Al
AlabamaSwamper
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It is oddly suspect that they had NEVER found a case and then suddenly found 100+ positives in such a short time period.
But, whatever! Hog, I think that part of the state is like a little blip or hole in the ground so maybe it wasn't on their radar as a great hunting area. Not sure. But I agree, to not have any and then go from "Hey, we have a few" to "Damn, we have more than 30?" to "Oh, sh*t we've got how many???" is crazy. That area is probably the most deer populated and is home to the most intensively managed piece of private property in the state. It’s been there for years just like Bama. Eventually a positive test will pop and then a bunch more somewhere. Then Chucky will destroy your already overpriced leases deer herd. It’s coming to a club near you. But hey, for $15 you can corn what’s left
BTR Scorer in NW Alabama
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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05/31/19 02:11 PM
05/31/19 02:11 PM
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Round ‘bout there
Clem
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Round ‘bout there
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That area is probably the most deer populated and is home to the most intensively managed piece of private property in the state.
Thanks for the update. Is the private land under fence or open?
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: Clem]
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05/31/19 09:12 PM
05/31/19 09:12 PM
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Florence, Al
AlabamaSwamper
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That area is probably the most deer populated and is home to the most intensively managed piece of private property in the state.
Thanks for the update. Is the private land under fence or open? 18000 acres and no fence
BTR Scorer in NW Alabama
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: ALFisher]
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06/01/19 04:36 PM
06/01/19 04:36 PM
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Gee's Bend/At The Hog Pen
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The reef permit is mandatory if you fish for snapper, i believe. It would be like adding $10 every year to hunt deer, which by lifetime license, you were already allowed to hunt. I'm in favor of the reef fish permit, but I totally understand what you are saying. I'm not sure how to handle it. It's not just for "Snapper" (Clem also posted a link) several species are considered "reef fish" what happens to the guy on the pier who catches a fish considered a "reef species" (like maybe possibly a Amberjack or Triggerfish) and he doesn't have the 10 dollar permit, cause he wasn't fishing for a "reef species" does he have to turn it loose? there's some gray area (which is not unusual) here imo. Seriously someone tell me IF I'M READING IT WRONG?
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: OlTimer]
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06/01/19 05:01 PM
06/01/19 05:01 PM
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Banks of Little River
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The Native American said “Governments speak with forked tongue”. I have seen where in lieu of taxes a mandatory fee is installed. We won’t get around this but one way that I have found. When I go into a government restroom, I take toilet paper and flush the toilet handle with my red wing boots and down goes an XX extra large pair of underwear. Where does it stop? With all this talk of the baiting privilege permit and lifetime license holders, no one has mentioned the lifetime fishing purchase. The state also passed an additional $10 fee if you reef fish. My children, nephews and friends had been given as gifts the lifetime hunting/fishing (salt and fresh water) license with the understanding it was for their lifetime. Now, to go snapper, trigger, mingo, etc. fishing with a lifetime license they have to purchase annually another fishing permit. A lot of bitching about the $15/$51 fee and nobody noticed the temperature just went up on the frog in the pot if you fish. Can we have refunds for a breach in contract? Yeah, I know, we don't have to snapper fish. Crock of sh!t.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: 300gr]
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06/03/19 05:24 PM
06/03/19 05:24 PM
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Sylacauga, AL
poorcountrypreacher
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I've posted about this in another thread, but I believe that the reef permit is the first outright breech of contract on any lifetime license. I can't see how anyone could deny that the state made a contract with me back in the 80s when I bought my lifetime fishing license, and now they have decided that they will no longer honor the contract. This is different than the baiting permit; it wasn't legal to bait when I bought my license. I don't like it, but I don't see it as illegal.
My reef fishing days are likely over, but as Clem says, this won't be the end of this type of fee if they are able to get away with it. It will set the precedent and we will eventually be buying deer tags, turkey tags, and who knows what else. This is not a new fee that is a law passed by our legislature; it is just a regulation devised by state employees and approved by the CAB. I think we need to do what we can to keep them from getting away with this. I am gonna start by contacting my CAB member for my district. I would encourage everyone else to do the same.
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Re: Additional fees for Lifetime License Holders
[Re: OlTimer]
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06/04/19 11:28 AM
06/04/19 11:28 AM
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Bham
Dallas County
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I'd be willing to be that sooner than later they add a "big game" fee to your lifetime hunting license as a requirement to deer hunt.
not sure what the best way to handle them is but they shouldnt be on tv and gettn married and raisin kids
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