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Raw Land Profit Pros/Cons #2707462
01/16/19 08:43 AM
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Looking into possibly purchasing some raw land. Size of property is just over 100 acres. Timber was cut 5-7 years ago. Has natural regrowth. Would like to be able to profit off land let's say in twenty years. Would the natural growth you think be able to be cut or does the land need to be replanted in pines? Thanks

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they don`t make land anymore so buy what you can afford

Re: Raw Land Profit Pros/Cons [Re: HoofNSpur] #2707470
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Depends on who you ask. Pine is over rated on small properties in my opinion. If it were 500 plus I might replant in pine. Put a good road system through it, a few food plots and resale for a profit later.


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Re: Raw Land Profit Pros/Cons [Re: HoofNSpur] #2707472
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20 years? Not likely.

Pines aren't even going to be really marketable in 20 years. I think the average clearcut age for saw logs is 33 years, according to the data I read.

And 5-7 year old natural regrowth is going to be thick. I'd probably just leave it, understanding that you will likely have to wait longer than 20 years to make money on it.

Re: Raw Land Profit Pros/Cons [Re: HoofNSpur] #2707474
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It's just my opinion, but if you just want some profit, if you buy in at the current land value you can resale in 20 years and have profit. If you are wanting to keep the land then you need to replant, clear it for pasture land, or crop land. For me location would have a lot to do with the second option.

Re: Raw Land Profit Pros/Cons [Re: HoofNSpur] #2707486
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How's the access ? Highway frontage or deeded easement ? Can it be logged in wet weather? Does it have a good site index for the timber you want to grow ?

Is there water on the property, either pond site or running stream? Utilities available for building development ?

All of these questions are something to consider.


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Re: Raw Land Profit Pros/Cons [Re: HoofNSpur] #2707499
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Forget pines. Do interior road improvements, ponds, food plots and market later for profit as recreational.


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Re: Raw Land Profit Pros/Cons [Re: Ryano] #2707514
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Originally Posted by Ryano
If you are wanting to keep the land then you need to replant, clear it for pasture land, or crop land. For me location would have a lot to do with the second option.

This depending on where the land is located and if there is decent access/utilities available. 100 acres would bring a hefty penny 20 years from now if its suitable for housing development. In the mean time clear it, put it in pasture or row crop amd rent it out or buy you some cows.

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Any particular reason you want to wait that long to profit? Like has been said, I would push roads, patches, maybe a pond. Put some nice shooting houses with a couple feeders. Manage the deer for a couple of years while you enjoy it. Then market and sell as recreational in 3-5 yrs. Take profits and start over with a new place. To do it this way you need to get it at a good price to start with. Make sure you have legal access.



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Re: Raw Land Profit Pros/Cons [Re: HoofNSpur] #2707620
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All great points. Land has a deeded easement, very short distance to highway. Water and power available.

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Originally Posted by FX4
Any particular reason you want to wait that long to profit? Like has been said, I would push roads, patches, maybe a pond. Put some nice shooting houses with a couple feeders. Manage the deer for a couple of years while you enjoy it. Then market and sell as recreational in 3-5 yrs. Take profits and start over with a new place. To do it this way you need to get it at a good price to start with. Make sure you have legal access.

Like this idea. Getting at a good price is gonna be the key.

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If $100/acre is cost of planting loblolly, on a 40 acre parcel that’s $4000 that could be used for roads, plots. Doing that now. Would loved to have planted long leaf but not for my area. This is a recreational parcel that didn’t have a food plot.Also plan on adding a small wildlife pond.

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Re: Raw Land Profit Pros/Cons [Re: HoofNSpur] #2709124
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Originally Posted by HoofNSpur
Originally Posted by FX4
Any particular reason you want to wait that long to profit? Like has been said, I would push roads, patches, maybe a pond. Put some nice shooting houses with a couple feeders. Manage the deer for a couple of years while you enjoy it. Then market and sell as recreational in 3-5 yrs. Take profits and start over with a new place. To do it this way you need to get it at a good price to start with. Make sure you have legal access.

Like this idea. Getting at a good price is gonna be the key.


One good thing with natural regen is that you have a blank slate for roads and food plots, depending on topography. You can establish your access to plots and plot orientation to take care of prevailing winds and alternate stands for those pre-front days when we have a south or east wind.


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Re: Raw Land Profit Pros/Cons [Re: HoofNSpur] #2709349
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Or better yet, invest the money instead in a money market fund or oil and gas stock.


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