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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2572933
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I'm already making plans for next years summer plots with my drill. Thinking buckwheat, sunn hemp and iC peas. Maybe some sorghum too or proso millet. Burndown then no till into. Outta be a deer haven. And turkey too


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2573092
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Do you bushog and plant the same the day? I should have said if planting with a drill

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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2573176
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You could but I'm not. I'll burndown weeds 20-14 days prior to planting


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2573343
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What kind of drill you getting 257?

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2573344
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Bought a Great Plains solid stand 10' today.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2573715
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Originally Posted by CNC
Yep, that’s the same kind of sandy soil I’m dealing with. The less you disk sand the better off you’ll be.

We tracked a monster 8 point that Otis bayed up for what is probably your neighbors or really close to you. I missed it with my pistol….he broke bay and we never saw him again. One of the biggest framed racks I’ve seen in the woods with my own eyes. A legitimate 150+ inch 8 point…..That’s when I threw the pistol away and broke out my 30-30 to track with. I started tearing ‘em up on bay after that. Man would I love to have a do over on that one though.


We learned the hard way on tracking with a pistol. Now it’s a 12ga buckshot.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2573788
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Oh yeah, I learned the hard way too……I remember Troy saying on here that a pistol would be worthless but so many other trackers kept saying that they liked this pistol or that one…..so I went with a Sig .45…..I finished off a few deer with it but after having that one bayed up in the bushes at 50-60 yards and not being able to hit him, I learned my lesson. It hurt me losing that deer like it was one of my own…..I felt it in my stomach.

This is one of those topics where everyone has a different opinion but I love my little 30-30 for tracking. The only reason I didn’t use it in the beginning was because it was more cumbersome to carry a rifle over a pistol. I figured out though….that you can put two slings on it and carry it like a backpack…..that was a gamechanger. Deer don’t want to mess with me and Otis and the dirty 30 now….I’ve been toting that gun since I was 12 years old.... I'll bust their arse if they give me an oppurtunity.

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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: 257wbymag] #2573919
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Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Bought a Great Plains solid stand 10' today.


If you dont mind sharing what did that run?

Also above your refer to burndown. I assume that was a gly spray and not a fire. I have always been scared to burn and it get away from me.


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Originally Posted by sumpter_al
Originally Posted by 257wbymag
Bought a Great Plains solid stand 10' today.


If you dont mind sharing what did that run?

Also above your refer to burndown. I assume that was a gly spray and not a fire. I have always been scared to burn and it get away from me.


Burn down always means chemical. Fire might be called burn up’

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2575322
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I think I'll give the Throw and Mow a try this year. I read the first ten or so pages and it made sense. Mainly for sand pit plots. I have a few in sandy soil that don't do very well and this method does make sense. I'm not sold on it working as well in a clay soil though. My clay plots do well with the traditional methods of tilling. These sandy plots need lots of nitrogen. From my experiments on my garden at home, which is sandy soil, broadcasting the nitrogen and not tilling it in works wonders. Let the rain and dew do all the work. To much, however will burn the crop. If this works, it will be another trick in the bag for holding and feeding deer.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: jaredhunts] #2575552
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Originally Posted by jaredhunts
I think I'll give the Throw and Mow a try this year. I read the first ten or so pages and it made sense. Mainly for sand pit plots. I have a few in sandy soil that don't do very well and this method does make sense. I'm not sold on it working as well in a clay soil though. My clay plots do well with the traditional methods of tilling. These sandy plots need lots of nitrogen. From my experiments on my garden at home, which is sandy soil, broadcasting the nitrogen and not tilling it in works wonders. Let the rain and dew do all the work. To much, however will burn the crop. If this works, it will be another trick in the bag for holding and feeding deer.


Welcome to the club!..... thumbup

I think you'll see some big improvements with your sandy fields if you stick with it for several years. It's possible in clay too but you're gonna have to have a plan where you slowly switch to a no-till method over time as the topsoil improves.

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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2575570
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I seriously can't believe this schit has gone on for 96 pages
Throw N grow is garbage.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: Out back] #2575585
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Originally Posted by Out back
I seriously can't believe this schit has gone on for 96 pages
Throw N grow is garbage.



your comments are garbage, works just fine and I promise I do half as much work as I used to. next


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2575596
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He’s just bored and trolling……gonna have to bait the hook better than that though….. cool

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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2575615
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I’ve tried it and it works fair if you apply PLENTY of extra seed. No comparison to using NT drill but better than plowing and disking. I think it’s worth the trouble to go to the local Soil Conservation Service and rent their drill for $10/ac. Drilling takes about 1/4 the seed to establish similar plot as T&M.

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Originally Posted by RiverWood
I’ve tried it and it works fair if you apply PLENTY of extra seed. No comparison to using NT drill but better than plowing and disking. I think it’s worth the trouble to go to the local Soil Conservation Service and rent their drill for $10/ac. Drilling takes about 1/4 the seed to establish similar plot as T&M.


With wheat at $7/bag and me only planting a few acres, I just seed it heavy, and it has worked really well.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2575650
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I agree that if you only planting small seeds like wheat on small acreage it is a good option. Better than plowing.

Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2575660
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Drills are for sure the most efficient way….…….The pics below is 100 lbs acre of rye……Same spot a few weeks apart….I’ve been no-tilling for about six years now so I’ve have a very rich topsoil built up. It may not be as efficient as drilling but I wouldn’t consider it inefficient either. There’s a lot of tilled plots that have 100 lbs put on them that won’t germinate this well due to poor conditions……..It takes time to create great topsoil.....

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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: CNC] #2575861
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Throw grow is garbage.
There's no substitute for a properly prepared seed bed.


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Re: Throw n Mow Q&A [Re: Out back] #2575913
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Originally Posted by Out back
Throw grow is garbage.
There's no substitute for a properly prepared seed bed.

Quit your cryin about everything that's different than how you do it. You sound like one of those snow flakes you hate so much. It may not work as well as disking (although many here including myself would disagree.) but I can plant in less than half the time now and the deer don't seem to mind. Time is money for me.

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