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Posted By: doghouse

Cheap scopes - 01/07/21 11:52 PM

I’m doing some rearranging on rifle-scope combos I have on hand. Looking for a low price scope to put on a 243. Hawke and Bushnell Banner 2 are the scopes that I’m leaning toward. I’ve used the original Bushnell Banner scopes and haven’t had any issues. I know nothing about Hawke scopes other than a couple friends have them and they really like them. Anyone have any advice which is better? Both are cheap so I don’t expect a whole lot. Or do y’all know of another scope(s) under the $200 price range y’all would recommend? The rifle I’m referring to doesn’t get used much if that makes any difference.
Posted By: Broadhead26

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 12:25 AM

I have a vortex diamondback on a few. Not my favorite scopes but not bad for the price.
Posted By: Luxfisher

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 12:32 AM

Sig wiskey pretty good.Look on Natchez web site has luepold rifleman around $200 & several nikon's.
Posted By: hardluck

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 12:44 AM

I guess all I’ve ever had are cheap scopes. Hawke, Bushnell, Tasco and Sig. I have cheap guns to!
Posted By: 1shot

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 12:58 AM

I’ve got one of these and really like it for the money, it has an illuminated dot as well

https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/3074457345620124267
Posted By: Ar1220

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 01:28 AM

Burris fullfield ii is a good scope and very resonable
Vortex would also be a good choice
Posted By: Bull64

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 01:43 AM

Sig...
Posted By: hardluck

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 02:06 AM

I have a Konus that is real clear and gathers a lot of light. Will see how it holds up.
Posted By: Big Bore

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 02:48 AM

OMG!!!!! Please don’t buy cheap glass!!!!! Life is much to short for cheap glass!!!
Posted By: CarbonClimber1

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 03:54 AM

I just put a monstrum tactical on my gun...good reviews..and so far..its been great
Posted By: CarbonClimber1

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by Big Bore
OMG!!!!! Please don’t buy cheap glass!!!!! Life is much to short for cheap glass!!!

Why....? They make great stuff in his price range..a good bit has already been listed...payin more than $500 for a rifle scope is retarded if your killin deer.
Posted By: Thread Killer

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
Originally Posted by Big Bore
OMG!!!!! Please don’t buy cheap glass!!!!! Life is much to short for cheap glass!!!

Why....? They make great stuff in his price range..a good bit has already been listed...payin more than $500 for a rifle scope is retarded if your killin deer.


I’ll double down and say more than $250 is retarted or just dick measurements.
Posted By: James

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 05:20 AM

Originally Posted by Thread Killer
Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
Originally Posted by Big Bore
OMG!!!!! Please don’t buy cheap glass!!!!! Life is much to short for cheap glass!!!

Why....? They make great stuff in his price range..a good bit has already been listed...payin more than $500 for a rifle scope is retarded if your killin deer.


I’ll double down and say more than $250 is retarted or just dick measurements.

Soooo you're one of those that'll pay good money for a rifle, only to top it with a cheap piece of glass? I'd rather have $250 dollar rifle, topped with a high end scope, than a nice rifle with a cracker jack scope. But hey, that's just me 😉

Posted By: Thread Killer

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Thread Killer
Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
Originally Posted by Big Bore
OMG!!!!! Please don’t buy cheap glass!!!!! Life is much to short for cheap glass!!!

Why....? They make great stuff in his price range..a good bit has already been listed...payin more than $500 for a rifle scope is retarded if your killin deer.


I’ll double down and say more than $250 is retarted or just dick measurements.

Soooo you're one of those that'll pay good money for a rifle, only to top it with a cheap piece of glass? I'd rather have $250 dollar rifle, topped with a high end scope, than a nice rifle with a cracker jack scope. But hey, that's just me 😉



Not quite, I don’t even buy nice rifles. I don’t buy anything that isn’t a really good deal.
Posted By: Semo

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Thread Killer
Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Thread Killer
[quote=CarbonClimber1][quote=Big Bore]

I’ll double down and say more than $250 is retarted or just dick measurements.

Soooo you're one of those that'll pay good money for a rifle, only to top it with a cheap piece of glass? I'd rather have $250 dollar rifle, topped with a high end scope, than a nice rifle with a cracker jack scope. But hey, that's just me 😉



Not quite, I don’t even buy nice rifles. I don’t buy anything that isn’t a really good deal.


I can agree with this. My remington 760 with a $200 redfield 2x7 can shoot better than I can.
Posted By: Ron A.

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 01:54 PM

I just ordered a Vortex Sonora for 116.00 delivered from PSA, I hope it works on my AR-15
Posted By: paulfish4570

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 04:21 PM

bushnell banner 4x32, made in korea, diamond plex reticle. i've had a couple over the years, both still going; zero issues.
Posted By: jwalker77

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 05:47 PM

They sure have some good sales. Buy the best you can afford at 50% off
Posted By: CarbonClimber1

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Thread Killer
Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
Originally Posted by Big Bore
OMG!!!!! Please don’t buy cheap glass!!!!! Life is much to short for cheap glass!!!

Why....? They make great stuff in his price range..a good bit has already been listed...payin more than $500 for a rifle scope is retarded if your killin deer.


I’ll double down and say more than $250 is retarted or just dick measurements.

Soooo you're one of those that'll pay good money for a rifle, only to top it with a cheap piece of glass? I'd rather have $250 dollar rifle, topped with a high end scope, than a nice rifle with a cracker jack scope. But hey, that's just me 😉


Uhhuhh...i dont even buy good guns...all i gots a savage...ugliest cheapest gun i could find rofl
Posted By: 1bamashooter

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 10:33 PM

Hawke. Friend has the tactical one and it passed the box test and has been a great scope for the money. I don't buy cheap optics but I'd probably buy a Hawke
Posted By: globe

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 10:52 PM

I’ll say if I were gonna go cheap, I’d get a good used Nikon, for 125-175.00.
They still made decent scopes. I like used leupold’s myself, but I wouldn’t classify them as cheap. I could take 6-700.00 and buy a dang good used deer killing set up. How about no cheap rings and bases?
Posted By: globe

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/08/21 10:53 PM

I remember the good ol days of chasing my tail with a 7400, see through rings, and a world class. I wasted a lot of shells!
Posted By: Calvin

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/09/21 12:15 AM

I have a Simmons Pro 50. Been camoed . glass is clear. FREE ! if it will help you out
Posted By: trailertrash

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/12/21 12:11 AM

I've had good luck with the Athlon scopes. The Neos line is the cheapest. I have owned 3 or 4 with no issues.
Posted By: 1955Retiree

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/12/21 01:49 AM

Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Thread Killer
Originally Posted by CarbonClimber1
Originally Posted by Big Bore
OMG!!!!! Please don’t buy cheap glass!!!!! Life is much to short for cheap glass!!!

Why....? They make great stuff in his price range..a good bit has already been listed...payin more than $500 for a rifle scope is retarded if your killin deer.


I’ll double down and say more than $250 is retarted or just dick measurements.

Soooo you're one of those that'll pay good money for a rifle, only to top it with a cheap piece of glass? I'd rather have $250 dollar rifle, topped with a high end scope, than a nice rifle with a cracker jack scope. But hey, that's just me 😉


^^^^
This
Posted By: UncleHuck

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/12/21 04:28 AM


If all you can afford is a $200 scope, it would be really hard to beat a Redfield Revolution. Made in the USA by Leupold.

If you can afford more, your options increase. We do spend more, but all we do is hunt. My wife and I don't own a boat any more, don't go to Disney, to the beach, or on cruises, and we rarely eat out.

We do have some great optics, and enjoy our out of state hunting trips. Those put great meat on the table.
Posted By: Todd1700

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/12/21 06:35 AM

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I’ll double down and say more than $250 is retarted or just dick measurements.


There is a point of diminishing returns with scopes but that cut off isn't at 250 dollars. For that price you can get a scope that will hold zero and maybe won't fog up on you. But you are not going to get good low light performance from a scope in that price range. Trust me I am no elitist scope snob. If there was a 250 dollar scope that was as good as any of the more expensive scopes out there I'd have one on every rifle I own and be damned glad to save the money. Back in my younger broke days I had scopes like Nikon Prostaffs and Bushnell Banner Dusk & Dawn. Sorry but they cannot hang with the Zeiss, Swarovski, and upper end Leupolds I use now.
Posted By: marshmud991

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/12/21 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Todd1700
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I’ll double down and say more than $250 is retarted or just dick measurements.


There is a point of diminishing returns with scopes but that cut off isn't at 250 dollars. For that price you can get a scope that will hold zero and maybe won't fog up on you. But you are not going to get good low light performance from a scope in that price range. Trust me I am no elitist scope snob. If there was a 250 dollar scope that was as good as any of the more expensive scopes out there I'd have one on every rifle I own and be damned glad to save the money. Back in my younger broke days I had scopes like Nikon Prostaffs and Bushnell Banner Dusk & Dawn. Sorry but they cannot hang with the Zeiss, Swarovski, and upper end Leupolds I use now.

I’m a cheap bastage and the most expensive scopes I have are my Nikon manarchs. I have buckmasters and prostaffs also. I also have a bushnell elite 3200, banner dusk to dawn, and a vortex diamondback. I killed the 2 bucks this season with a pro staff and the dusk to dawn. Not deer were on cloudy afternoons and within a minute or 2 of the end of “legal” shooting time. The 10pt I killed was with my AR 7.62x39 with the dusk to dawn scope. I could barely see movement with my eyes but could see him plenty good enough to tell he was a really good buck at a little over 100yds. I said all that to say that my cheats scopes will let me see deer later then I could “legally” shoot one. You know if the time on my watch was wrong by 10 mins or so.
Posted By: Geno

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/12/21 10:44 PM

I've used mueller, nikon and bushnell low end stuff that works great. Way better than the best there was 20 years ago.
Posted By: Big Bore

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/13/21 12:16 AM

Geno. Sorry man but Zeiss, Swarovski, Kahles, Leica, and schmidt and bender were all here 20 years ago and none of those scopes, not even in the most expensive model today can even touch what these scopes were 20 years ago.
Posted By: ChrisAU

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/13/21 12:38 AM

I paid around $275 for a Meopta Optika5 2-10x42 and I think it’s fantastic for the price. Got it from sport optics in Louisiana.
Posted By: low wall

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/13/21 12:50 AM

There are main measures of quality (actually, lots more,but 2 "main") First, there is the sharpness, return to zero, optical clarity, lack of distortion at the edges, low light/coatings, etc. There, modern Asian grinding and coating certainly is far ahead of premium European quality from a couple of decades ago.
But.......then there is the hundreds of rounds fired, miles traveled, guns dropped, guns moved from freezing to indoors thousands of times, hunted in mist, fog, rain, etc, etc. For that, I'll take my 20 yo Leupold or Zeiss, not to mention Swaro, all day long. I'm legally blind without glasses, and I'm well aware that all that extra glass makes me lose sight quickly at dust, but I'll take the older glass over modern cost cutting construction techniques, thank you. I bet you CAN see better than me through a $250 scope. I bet you won't be carrying it in 20 years, either.
Posted By: buckhunter2

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/13/21 01:18 AM

Dvor has Burris Fullfield E1 3-9x40 on sale for less than $150. Excellent scope and not made in China.

Much much much better than any cheap ($100) Chinese scope.
Posted By: TDog93

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/13/21 01:44 AM

I hav pretty quality scopes on my guns - but if u want cheap - i had a buddy that had a world class tasco that was decent

I would go with something nicer - meopta makes great scope for $$ - but if u want to go cheap 3x9x50 world class tasco you can get for $75 😀 and it will work
Posted By: doghouse

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/13/21 03:45 PM

I can afford a quality scope but don’t want to go that route. The rifle is more or less a loaner and I don’t care to spend more money than needed for a scope on it. The main purpose of having this rifle and for a kid that doesn’t have their own when they come to the hunting club.
Posted By: gundoc

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/13/21 04:04 PM

Vortex Crossfire II would be a good option too...I've killed a lot of deer with one that would now be well past legal shooting light after the rule change.
Posted By: TDog93

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/13/21 09:22 PM

Explaining it that way doghouse - I understand where u coming from and don’t blame u - I prob do same w a loaner
Posted By: Claims Rep.

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/14/21 05:01 PM

There’s always a bunch of used scopes for sale over on the Campfire website. Go there and buy a good one at a used price.
Posted By: Thread Killer

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/14/21 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Claims Rep.
There’s always a bunch of used scopes for sale over on the Campfire website. Go there and buy a good one at a used price.


Yea, they don’t come around here very much.
Posted By: jwalker77

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/15/21 03:15 AM

My son killed a bunch of deer with a 3x9x50 banner dusk till dawn on his rifle. I gave it to a fellow on here. Now his daughter is killing deer with it. They are well worth what you pay for them
Posted By: Jcalloway

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/20/21 01:53 AM

Honestly I never thought much of Hawke scopes besides built for air guns. But the Hawk Endurance is a amazing scope. Glass looks great and really good in low light.
Posted By: Semo

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/20/21 04:19 AM

Originally Posted by UncleHuck

If all you can afford is a $200 scope, it would be really hard to beat a Redfield Revolution. Made in the USA by Leupold.

If you can afford more, your options increase. We do spend more, but all we do is hunt. My wife and I don't own a boat any more, don't go to Disney, to the beach, or on cruises, and we rarely eat out.

We do have some great optics, and enjoy our out of state hunting trips. Those put great meat on the table.


I agree. I have 3 2 2x7 and a 4x12. All have been good for me. But I am a believer that most guns and optics are more accurate than I am if paired with the right ammo.
Posted By: burbank

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/20/21 07:38 PM

I just bought a used Nikon Monarch for 160 bucks. I have purchased used Elite 4200s under 250.00.

You can get NICE glass in the range if you don't mind used.
Posted By: James

Re: Cheap scopes - 01/20/21 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by burbank
I just bought a used Nikon Monarch for 160 bucks. I have purchased used Elite 4200s under 250.00.

You can get NICE glass in the range if you don't mind used.



I agree with that. I've purchased some (and sold a few) nice bushnells for that price, i was wanting to take that one you had for sale but i was too late. Would've looked great on my Marlin SBL....
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