Marlin to Ruger

Just a prediction but I think marlin is coming back. Strong. Best move coulda happened for that brand was going to Ruger.
Might be time to buy that new lever gun once they get things rolling.

Yes, I am looking forward to what rolls out. Always liked Marlin guns, a shame what Remington did with them and there own brand.

I'll wait a few years and maybe buy a used one.
Meantime I'll stick with my JM Marlins.

My son bought a (Remington) Marlin 60 late last year brand new. The feed tube dovetail cut in the bottom of the barrel was to big to hold the tube mount. He had to use electrical tape on a brand new rifle to hold it together or the ammo tube wanted to slide over and out.

No way QC should miss that. Ruger will fix the issues that Remington created I believe.

It really couldn't get all that much worse than the status quo with Remington at the helm.
I'm also hopeful and eager to see what Ruger does.

Ruger WILL straighten out Marlin. It'll take awhile but Marlins will be worth buying again.

Remington is a prime example of how to screw up a good thing.

I’m ashamed of the quality I’ve seen in things with “Made in Huntsville” on them.

I'd bet we see a lever for high pressure center fires.

I wouldn't mind having a Marlin in 416 Rem Mag. 😉

I've got an R1 in .40 S&W that is well built and is a tack driver. It was made in Huntsville

I missed that Roger bought them. That's great. Roger is a solid company. I own several and I would buy anything they make without inspecting it. Well, almost.

They call’em Remlin now. What’s the future nickname?

Ruglin
Sturmlin
Marger
Marlurm
SturMarlin

I'd go with affordable quality.

I've run loads through Rugers that only a Freedom Arms should've taken no issues.

Yep. Hell i like my JM stamped models (and even they had issues) but i ain't gonna go tossing out my 1895SBL no time soon 🤣🤣🤣

Anything they did right in Huntsville was too little, too late....after 30 years of pissing a good name away, they might as well tried emptying the ocean with a spoon.

I can honestly say I have never had a 700 old or new with a single problem and I have had/do have a bunch.
I have seen a few - a slim few - with all I've owned or worked on that had some issues that should have never made it past QC.
Thing is, they are a manufactured product, shucks happens.
Yeah they had some serious issues with the Marlin rifles. They got those worked out.
Honestly, the only thing I don't like about a new Remington or Marlin now was that awful bluing that would rust if you look at it hard.

The only issue I have with new Remington and Marlins is they rust like they have been in the rain for 20 years. The 11-87 I got on the Walmart deal for $250 is the worst imaginable rust bucket you can have. It looks like it’s 30 years old.

They will surely be better for Marlin than Remington was. However, Ruger's quality control ain't what it used to be. My brother and I both bought the Ruger single seven when they came out. Mine had to go back twice and his went back once and needs to go back again. One good thing about Ruger is the special runs of more unique firearms the come out with. Hopefully they will do the same with the Marlin line.

Ruger will sink a pile of money in Marlin and get them up to what we expect and probably even better
I would love to see some large bore Levers coming from them....like the 460 S&W

I know a couple of engineers and workers from the original Marlin. Much of their stuff had to be hand fitted because the equipment was flat worn out. Remington put a guy in charge that came from the faucet industry. Most of the Marlin guys bailed.

Remington has made good products the last few years, all new equipment and techniques. Why they didn’t fix the 94’s lifter snail cam jam flaw is beyond me. They have made some great variants and got the 444 back up and running.

I do think Ruger taking them over is a great move. I think Ruger will reintroduce the 308 and 338 but we’ll see.

I haven’t been impressed with ruger lately. I’m still bitter over my ruger ranch that had issues and ruger tried telling me it was the ammo manufacturers fault that I couldn’t shoot over half the off the shelf brands.

Also, as a side note, did you know the founder of ruger called for high capacity mag bans? He sent letters to congress telling them to ban the mags because it was easier than banning the guns.

Bill Ruger is dead and gone.
Modern Ruger is offering integrally suppressed guns, AR15s, AR15 pistols and all sorts of thing things he wouldn't have approved of.

I’m a Ruger fan, I believe in the second amendment and stand by it eventhough I know there are some folk that have no business even touching a firearm and I chuckle at the actual need for a high capacity magazine.

Maybe the only thing Biden ever said that I concur with was his Double barrel shotgun comment.

Maybe, but i'm pretty sure he was still around when the the Amphibian was developed

What the hell did Biden say about the double barrel shotgun?

https://youtu.be/HHZ7zXLvOkY

I think I mentioned this before, but fire superiority is one hell of a thing.

Second amendment wasn’t created to protect yourself from some methed up tweaker trying to break in your house.
It was created as a form of resistance against tyranny. There’s a reason just about all armies in the world have moved towards automatic and semi-automatic weapons with high capacity mags from the old bolt actions with 5rd mags.

I said I support the second fully. I still chuckle at remarks like the above ^^^^^^

Folk with this attitude are a distraction and fodder for folk like me. Hi-Cap AIN’T the way to stand against tyranny. “ fire superiority” is a state of mind, breaking the will to fight and surviving to fight another day is key. So, there may exist a “reason why all of the armies of the world...“ but to ignore Stalingrad and “the old bolt action” is a mistake that will haunt, to ignore the tactics of the VC a bad idea too. To think a well armed militia backed by the second amendment has fire superiority would be the biggest mistake yet.

If y’all need schooling on warfare, I’m your huckleberry. I am a (g)od of war.

Per the topic. long live the leveraction !

Stalingrad had a ton of machine guns like the PPSH’s and the vietcong had AK’s and SKS’s among other things. Obviously tactics play a critical role but It’s really naive to say that high capacity magazines have no benefit in warfare. If your plan is really to be like that guy in the video standing in the open trying to play cowboy, then we know who the real fodder is going to be.

You need to learn history instead of taking the Rednek Ignorance with arrogance approach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko

I have demilitarized and left more full auto hi cap weapons on the battlefields of the world in favor of a shotgun and 40mm than you have ever encountered.

I am laughing at you though.

I’m not sure what scenario you have envisioned for the necessity of your favored weapon but if you think its to go toe-2-toe with military or police forces to fight tyranny you are in a delusional state at best.

Because I created the “highway of death” (a smidgen of my handiwork), people with weapons far beyond what you can buy at Academy, I know without hesitation you have delusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death

A resistance of the type to fight tyranny would be better suited fighting from the shadows.

Marlin to Ruger...Long live the Leveraction !

cool story man. I really hate the be the bearer of bad news, but you’re not the only one with deployments or combat experience, so I know for a fact you’re talking out of your ass.

But I’ll catch up with you later, I’m going to send a 2028 up to the department of the Army and tell them how their infantry manual and ranger handbooks that were built with years of experience are just full of shucks, and that fire superiority isn’t a real thing because some guy on the internet who’s the worlds leading weapons and tactics expert told me so.

To the OP, sorry for the de-rail. Sad to see Remington go the way of the dodo

Johnny you never shot your rifle in a combat zone buddy. You're a forkin Wingnut!

“First There”

I think some of you are missing the point, whether you have a tax stamp and goodies, or bought your wanna-be rifle from Academy, you ain’t gonna introduce superiority of weaponry over a tyrannical organized government with weapons of the like you would have a hard time wrapping your head around.

This all started because someone decided to point out their interpretation of why we are to have a second amendment. I’m pointing out that (if) the intent was to have equal weaponry for the use against a tyrannical government, you are way behind the powercurve. You will NEVER have superior weapons compared to today’s forces.

We can’t even discuss the 2nd amendment uses against thugs, thieves, Antifa, Negro lives matter, or a drunk brother-n-law, because the fella went straight to the “tyranny“ argument.

Just remember “Ranger” school is a career for an Army troop, its just one course of many for my type. I have a Ranger tab from when it meant something, met the wizard at Camp Rudder too.

Now they give it to girls in the AirForce, doesn’t get much more diluted than that...agreed?

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/...t-female-airman-to-earn-army-ranger-tab/

I’ll help y’all learn, gotta drop the rednek ignorance with arrogance though. “You can’t learn until you first realize how STUPID you are.“

https://afspecialwarfare.com/ranger-assessment-course-13may/

-Johnnyloco (g)od of war

You never went to Ranger School. Going to the school is a far cry from performing any sort of actual operation.

The only thing you were "first" at was helping someone off a bird at the helipad or asking an officer if they want cream or sugar.

How dare you speak to the (g)od of war like that!

Its all good brothers, I and Uncle Sam know what I am. Ignorance of the Air Force mission is nothing new, redneks just have the ignorance with arrogance disorder. Please keep working and paying your taxes, I‘m looking forward to purchasing a few Ruger made Marlins with y’alls hard earned dollars.

Some funny fellas fer shol

LOL....the REAL ‘god of war’ retired about five years ago from my SF group.

We tried to share a bullet once,


......but it decided to go between us both, rather than risk the wrath of hitting either of us.

Whatever. LOL

Capabilities dictate tactics. Firepower is a desirable capability, and certain levels can only be brought to bear under certain conditions. The insurgent rarely has ROEs.

My kind is exempt from and ignore LOAC, ROE, and morality during war.

I’ll say again for the Black Rifle Wanna be Militia crowd, you would be fodder and a joke at best going toe-2-toe.

- Johnnyloco (g)od of war

Long live the Marlin Levergun

Dude are you smoking crack or something? Obviously you can’t win a fight against modern powers that be with semi auto pop guns. What’s with all the resume dropping on a deer hunting forum?

Because I chuckle at the the folk thinking the second amendment and their high capacity mags gives them a chance of a fart in a whirlwind against tyranny. Its just that simple.

I’ve moved past that but the question I’d really like answered is:

Fellas, when you are making love to your sister, mom, or first cousin, do you yell “roll tide”?

Hopefully they'll make a affordable 357 carbine and 45-70 I'll be happy camper.ive been wanting a 357,45 colt,45-70 awhile but not paying the premium lever guns bring now days.to me it just doesn't make sense to buy a lever gun for $800 when there are outstanding tight group shooting bolt guns in that price range.

I think Ruger will do them justice even though I bought two rugers in a row with problems and are firm believer rugers QC isn't nearly as good as 20 years ago.
But Ruger does their more traditional firearms best anyways IMO wheel guns,mini 14 and m77's maybe 1911 but could care less for anything else they make

I don’t think the price will go down and you can thank (my opinion) greed and Henry for that. They see what Henry is getting away with pricewise but I base most of my opinion on the price Ruger is getting for the 77 Pistol caliber models which are overpriced.

All Ruger has to do is go back and revive some models that are out of production and they will do fine. They need to bring back the straight grip guns, the Trapper Models and come right back out with the 308 Marlin Express and that series of rifles.

They will sell big time.

Regardless of your thoughts, there are less than 1.4 million active duty people in the US Military, and another 900,000 or so in the reserves. Most of which would not dare to stand against US Citizens. That number also includes taxi drivers, cooks, and the janitorial staff who wouldn't really know which end of an M-16 to light or which way the cartridges go in the magazine.

There were almost 16 million hunting licenses sold in the USA in 2018, and there are currently almost 19 million CCW permit holders. Even allowing for some overlap between those numbers, that' well over 15 to 1 odds. In addition, the hunters mostly know their woods, and the military would not be familiar.

That doesn't even begin to cover the additional gun owners, just the hunters and the CCW holders.

I’m not sure you understand my stance against tyranny. I believe every patriot should shoot one tyrant per week then go back to their day job. Cook deathcap mushroom soup for them or pop them when they least expect it, then disappear into the shadows. The situation will be over in a week if everyone was onboard. There is no question that hunting license holders alone constitute the world’s largest army.

I know for fact going toe-2-toe against them with hi-cap weapons is MUY STUPIDO

I laugh when you suggest that the oppressors won’t have enforcers of some type.

The fact still remains the left has way more balls than the right, from the stunts they pull in politics to the shooting of a country concert. The left ARE the wolves, the right are the sheep. The left’s “fighter” organizations have real weapons and explosives that the gunclub guru wannabes on the right wish they had.

I have worked with Hillary’s Army “Counter Arms” “feeding the world’s Guerrillas one banana clip at a time”. These groups have experience from all over the globe, you do not wanna go head on against them and you do not wanna expose yourself. Every patriot, one target, one week.

Look, everything is before each of y’all, look at the world stage and events that have unfolded. To quote Marcus Luttrell from a 2016 campaign rally “we are at war”. I wish each of you well, I support the second amendment, but don’t go toe-2-toe. Furthermore, if this is the end times, how it unfolds is written.

And, long live the Marlin Levergun !

You are a true Wingnut. Hadji living in a mud hut chitting in a bucket.... you know that guy Johnny? He's kicked our arse plenty and we are surrendering to him. I know all you Air Force support guys can't really comprehend anything more than hanging around our own airspace pushing buttons and playing with gadgets, but the guys on the ground actually fighting do really appreciate you dropping some ordinance where they need it.

We The People Johnny. Our current Military and its leadership can't stop a 13 year old kid with a unexploded mortar round and some speaker wire. Been a mystery to them since about 1960.

One of us is confused, the other is ignorant, I’m confused.

Some people don’t understand there’s a reason they are constantly in conflict with others. If they do, it’s not the reason they think it is.

Buy a new Remlin when the Ruglins make it to market and they have to be clearance priced to grow legs. It’l be the best Remington made and warranted by a superior company.

They are already in short supply with the prices going up

I’m hoping they make an improved version of the 336 30-30. Wanted one for a long time but not the current version, heard too many bad things