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Wssm calibers

Posted By: flounderpounder

Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 12:50 AM

I’m always interested to hear what you gun gurus have to say about certain calibers. What do y’all think of the WSSM calibers? I like the idea of a light short action rifle with that type of performance! Looking at picking up a 25 wssm now that ammo is available at most online retailers. Any feedback appreciated as usual
Posted By: quailman

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 01:06 AM

270wsm is a killa!
Posted By: Reloader79

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 01:15 AM

They are lightweight and effective, go ahead and stock up on you some ammo and components also if you reload.
Posted By: AU7MM08

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by Reloader79
They are lightweight and effective, go ahead and stock up on you some ammo and components also if you reload.


Yup 100%, I would purchase plenty of components so when that source dries up next quarter it's not the typical WSSM sob story.
Posted By: AU338MAG

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 02:07 AM

It will be years before they manufacture another lot of 25 WSSM Ammo. Demand is too low. I've had several people ask me to load for 25 WSSM in the past few years because they couldn't find ammo, but you can't load it if you don't have the brass. Some of these folks bought the rifles because the thought they were getting a great deal on a gun. Truth was the sellers were trying to dump a useless hunk of steel because they couldn't find ammo.

If you find ammo, buy at least 500 rounds, because once current supply is exhausted, you may not see it again for years.

The WSSM cartridges were an answer to a question no one was asking.
Posted By: just_an_illusion

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 02:10 AM

And buy empty brass most everytime you come across it
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 02:17 AM

Originally Posted by AU338MAG
It will be years before they manufacture another lot of 25 WSSM Ammo. Demand is too low. I've had several people ask me to load for 25 WSSM in the past few years because they couldn't find ammo, but you can't load it if you don't have the brass. Some of these folks bought the rifles because the thought they were getting a great deal on a gun. Truth was the sellers were trying to dump a useless hunk of steel because they couldn't find ammo.

If you find ammo, buy at least 500 rounds, because once current supply is exhausted, you may not see it again for years.

The WSSM cartridges were an answer to a question no one was asking.


Last statement is very true
Posted By: James

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 02:40 AM

Originally Posted by quailman
270wsm is a killa!


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Posted By: AC870

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 03:01 AM


AC’s basic rule: no oddball calibers.
Posted By: AU338MAG

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 03:37 AM

Originally Posted by AC870

AC’s basic rule: no oddball calibers.

There's a difference between oddball cartridges and cartridges that were DOA. The 25 WSSM falls into the latter category for many reasons. The ballistics are only slightly better than a 257 Roberts and not as good as a 25-06. Second, the guns are a special short action that is only good for WSSM cartridges. You can't rebarrel it to any other type cartridge. If they ever stop making brass and ammo for good, which is likely to happen eventually, only thing you have is a gun to hang above the mantle.

A stupid concept.
Posted By: Big Bore

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 06:25 AM

Or an expensive coat hanger
Posted By: AU7MM08

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by AC870

AC’s basic rule: no oddball calibers.

There's a difference between oddball cartridges and cartridges that were DOA. The 25 WSSM falls into the latter category for many reasons. The ballistics are only slightly better than a 257 Roberts and not as good as a 25-06. Second, the guns are a special short action that is only good for WSSM cartridges. You can't rebarrel it to any other type cartridge. If they ever stop making brass and ammo for good, which is likely to happen eventually, only thing you have is a gun to hang above the mantle.

A stupid concept.


Yup, it's one thing to get a crazy oddball in a standard short or long action, if it disappears, no problem use the action for a project in a different caliber.
Posted By: jrs89

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 11:40 AM

I’d like to have a 25 or 243wssm as well.
Posted By: Fldoghunter

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 02:33 PM

I saw several boxes of 25 WSSM shells in a gun shop in central FL a while back. Wouldn't surprise me if they are still there. They probably had 10 boxes and it wasn't priced too bad. I don't go there any more because I'm not crazy about the people who run it. If anybody wants their contact info to see if they still have it and will ship it, just holler.
Posted By: biglmbass

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by flounderpounder
What do y’all think of the WSSM calibers?l


I think anyone interested missed the window to lay in a supply of brass & loaded ammo, oh about 7-8 years ago.
Posted By: Deerdook1

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 07:22 PM

My wife has two .25wssm rifles, both a-bolts. My son has .243wssm, also in a-bolt. Ammo was dry for a couple of years, never ran out but got expensive and hard to find. At the moment, plenty of .25 ammo to be had and prices back down to an average $35/box. I bought 6 cases and no more than wife shoots, should last the rest of our lives.
As far as performance, as mentioned above, very close to 25-06. The gun is ideal for women, people with somewhat of a disability, or younger kids due to zero recoil and basically no hold-over out to 300yds, most in this class aren't going to shoot that far anyway.
If you shoot a lot, I wouldn't recommend getting a wssm. If you do get one, spend the money on the best mount/scope setup that you can to keep zeroing at a minimum. Out of twelve years of owning these, I've only had to do the annual "check" shot to verify zero (or if gun was dropped), never had to make an adjustment or re-sight.
Wife has killed twelve mature bucks(two at +300yds) with hers, missed three, and lost zero.
Posted By: Ar1220

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/11/19 08:51 PM

I'll just stick my old outdated obsolete calibers 260,280,30-06,308,7mm mag 300 mag and and not buy into the boutique calibers
Posted By: quickshot

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/12/19 01:18 AM

There is a 243wssm on armslist up at some pawn shop in Decatur think it was a model 70
Posted By: Deerdook1

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/12/19 10:51 AM

Ar1220, I feel the same, even though my wife carries the .25wssm, out of fourteen deer rifles, I find my self carrying the trusty 30-06 99% of the time. I guess I'm a gun hoarder, can't seem to part with any, they just safe queens.
Posted By: Ar1220

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/13/19 12:09 AM

I have more than my fair share of firearms my wife's totes a 7mm-08 that she won and I tote my 280 or 7mm rem mag both have done there fair share of freezer filling and wall hanging
Posted By: modoc_333

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/13/19 03:33 AM

Originally Posted by Ar1220
I'll just stick my old outdated obsolete calibers 260,280,30-06,308,7mm mag 300 mag and and not buy into the boutique calibers



Agreed. My 270 will drop anything in Alabama. Only a small part of me wishes I had bought 30-06
Posted By: odocoileus

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/13/19 04:38 AM

I've noticed no difference in dead between .270 Win, .280 Rem, or .30-06 Sprg. Based on this high scientific evidence, I posthume that this case deisgn to be the most lethal of all time .
Posted By: 257wbymag

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/13/19 04:43 AM

270 will bounce right off a deer.
Posted By: AC870

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/13/19 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by odocoileus
I've noticed no difference in dead between .270 Win, .280 Rem, or .30-06 Sprg. Based on this high scientific evidence, I posthume that this case deisgn to be the most lethal of all time .


.308 ain’t too bad either....
Posted By: alhawk

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/14/19 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by AC870
Originally Posted by odocoileus
I've noticed no difference in dead between .270 Win, .280 Rem, or .30-06 Sprg. Based on this high scientific evidence, I posthume that this case deisgn to be the most lethal of all time .


.308 ain’t too bad either....


But it has a different "case design"
Posted By: hunterbuck

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/14/19 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by alhawk
Originally Posted by AC870
Originally Posted by odocoileus
I've noticed no difference in dead between .270 Win, .280 Rem, or .30-06 Sprg. Based on this high scientific evidence, I posthume that this case deisgn to be the most lethal of all time .


.308 ain’t too bad either....


But it has a different "case design"


I believe AC is saying that the .308 case design should also be considered as "most lethal of all time". It would include the .308, 7/08, .260, and .243.

Of course, the 30/06 case also must include the 25/06, too.
Posted By: AU338MAG

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/14/19 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by hunterbuck
Originally Posted by alhawk
Originally Posted by AC870
Originally Posted by odocoileus
I've noticed no difference in dead between .270 Win, .280 Rem, or .30-06 Sprg. Based on this high scientific evidence, I posthume that this case deisgn to be the most lethal of all time .


.308 ain’t too bad either....


But it has a different "case design"


I believe AC is saying that the .308 case design should also be considered as "most lethal of all time". It would include the .308, 7/08, .260, and .243.

Of course, the 30/06 case also must include the 25/06, too.

You should also include the 338-06 A Square and 35 Whelen in the 06 class of SAMMI approved cartridges.

Add the 338 federal and 358 Winchester to the 308 class.

But we are getting waaay off topic aren't we?
Posted By: hunterbuck

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/14/19 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by AU338MAG
Originally Posted by hunterbuck


I believe AC is saying that the .308 case design should also be considered as "most lethal of all time". It would include the .308, 7/08, .260, and .243.

Of course, the 30/06 case also must include the 25/06, too.

You should also include the 338-06 A Square and 35 Whelen in the 06 class of SAMMI approved cartridges.

Add the 338 federal and 358 Winchester to the 308 class.

But we are getting waaay off topic aren't we?

Yes...we're getting a bit off topic. And, while I do agree with what you're saying, I was simply trying to stay with mainstream calibers...those readily available at Walmart, etc. I know the .35 Whelen is a dang fine cartridge, but not all the major firearms manufacturers make rifles in that caliber anymore (and the .260 might fall into this category as well, now).
Posted By: modoc_333

Re: Wssm calibers - 07/15/19 03:09 AM

Off topic still.....
Yes there are many fine calibers and they can do great things. But there is no way to deny that at least for hunting, nothing has had the influence that the 30-06 casing has had. Even things like a 7mm mag are really just an attempt at a better 270.

Wsm and wssm are cool. Buy what you like. But don't dismiss the classics. They are still popular for good reason.
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