Flat shooting choice

I know everyone has a opinion cause everyone is a expert. If you has to choose between 300 win mag, 300 wsm, or 28 Nosler in a bolt gun. Gun will primarily be a clear cut, crop field, shooting house gun. Want one that’s going to be the flattest shooting round . I know they have +- to all any personal use or preferences

I'm no expert I just sleep near a Holiday inn. Look at Hornady's .300 PRC. Then the .28 nosler.

I'd go with the 7mm.......28NOS all the way 😀

Lol true , I’ve looked at the 300 PRC and like it the best just can’t find it in a rifle that’s not $2,000

That 26 Nosler in the classifieds would be a goodun.
Those are really nice rifles.

28 Nosler. Easy choice and will shoot very high BC bullets faster than the others.

If you want something to shoot flatter than anything out to about 400 yards, a 257 Weatherby would be a great choice. It will still get it done beyond 400, but the trajectory and wind drift really become a factor because of the low BC bullets in that caliber compared to the others.

I'm looking into getting either a 257 Roy or 6.5-300. Simply because why the hell not.

To me,it would be more about platform than caliber, any of those would work thoughg I would lean 300 win mag just because of component availability and history. A lot more load info and such on the 300 Win.

From the ones you mentioned; I’d go with the 28nos. The numbers on that caliber are very impressive. I had a Cooper built in 28nos.

Other choices would be the 26nos or 257 Roy.

I just happen to have a 26nos for sale.

No one has said it.
6.5 Creedmoor.

Already have one of those lol

7mm mag or ultra mag if you want more zip. Never been crazy about the creedmoores and all that jazz but that's just me.

Win Mag all day, and 200gr. Accubonds..

Whichever gets the job done with ease using federal bluebox from walmart

Flat trajectory really doesn't matter as long as you know your caliber and have a good scope with some type of moa reticle you familiarize yourself to.

However if flat is what you want then,6.5 Remington magnum,6.5 creedmoor, 25-06,270,7mm Remington mag.,338 ultra mag

6.5 prc and save yourself a lot of shoulder punishment mauvilla.

There are plenty of good ballistic calculators out there. Play with them. You can change caliber and specific round. Pretty easy to see what's flat. Most will also give good info on energy and such. I do suggest that you also consider avail9, price, recoil, and what it actua6does when it hits a deer. Of course also consider what model gun you like and what its available in.

Ya I would tend to agree. 6MM , 6.5MM & 7MM is what's perfect for most.
Something between a 257Wby on the small end and a 7MM WBY Mag at the top end. 257WBY, 6.5-285, 26Nos 6.5-300Wby, 7MM Rem, 7MM WBY, 28Nos

Out of the three you listed I would do 28 nosler. But if I were building one myself I like the 6.5-284. Or I might go with the new hotness like 257 mentioned the 6.5 prc.

7mm stw

Wise man, a firearm isn't much good without ammo. I'm not a blue box Federal man but you get the idea.

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Of the ones you mentioned, 28 Nosler. It's almost 300 FPS faster than the 7mm STW.

If you are open to suggestions, then the .280 Ackley might interest you. 140 grain 7mm bullet, at 3150 FPS. 200 yard zero puts your 400 yard drop at only 17 inches. That's 5.5 inches less drop than the 6.5 creed, and over an inch less than the 6.5 PRC with factory ammo, 2 inches less than factory .300 Win, 3 inches less than factory .300 WSM

All with .308 level recoil.

just because you CAN say something, doesn't mean you SHOULD say it.......

Always pay attention to the barrel length when looking at load data. The 28 is actually less than 100fps faster than the 7mm STW on paper with some powders such as RL25. You have no idea how fast a gun will actually shoot until you shoot it because of the chamber. In the real world there isn't a bit of difference between the two. You can look at the load data and pick the two fastest but neither might shoot well in your rifle.

7mm RUM faster.

Don't believe the Hype. Nosler hasn't come up with anything new.


Out of the three listed choices I would get the .28 Nosler if I was going to reload, if not I would get the .300 Win Mag. Chasing 100fps in cartridge selection is a fools errand. I would shoot 7mm Rem Mag over any of these myself if I has buying it for a deer rifle. The real advantage of these larger cartridges is the ability to shoot heavy bullets around 200 grains for larger game such as elk. I know a lot of y'all would rather shoot an elk with a 100 grain Barnes magic bullet. However - None of that is really necessary for a whitetail you can shoot a 140 grain in 7 Mag or a 150/160 in .30 cal such as .300 win mag. You don't need heavier for deer. If we were all capable of shooting 800 yards I'm not sure this question would be getting asked here and obviously that might change our response. I am assuming we are talking flat shooting out to around 500 yards here.

As reference, I was strictly referring to factory ammo, not personal reloads. No question that some of those could be faster.

Personally, if I could only have one rifle for elk and smaller, it would probably be the .280 Ackley.

I'll take a 28 nosler over a 7 STW or 7MM RUM any day. Unless you build a custom rifle, 7 STW is not known for good accuracy and the 7 RUM is a certified barrel burner. Both have faded since they were introduced.

Unless you want to shoot and kill beyond 500 yards or so, none of these big boomers are needed. The advantage of the type guns is only realized when pushing heavy, high BC bullets at higher velocities, and this advantage only comes into play when you start pushing distances beyond 5-600 yards. Otherwise, a 308 with good bullets will cleanly kill whitetails out to 4-500 yards and do so with a lot less recoil and blast. And you can shoot thousands of rounds in a 308 without needing a new barrel, which means you can PRACTICE.

Only advantage to these fast barrel burners that I can think of is not having to worry about known exact yardages IE more room for error. Could come in handy on a powerline where there is not much time to range and shoot.

270 wsm,, and I know where you can get one! 😀

26 nosler

What is your ‘flat to’ distance? Plenty of stuff will go 0-300+ at minute of deer....with less fuss. Past 400, everything requires knowing your dope.

You won't find many that have point blank range out to 400 yards, and most of these are custom guns in wildcat chamberings. I know some guys that shoot a 300 RUM necked down to 6.5 mm, shooting 130 grain bullets at 3500 FPS.

Barrel life is short...

What he said.

If the game is deer at 600 and under the 6.5 PRC will be king.

6.5 PRC is a great cartridge. If I didn't own a .264 Win Mag, it would be my next rifle, but it ain't a 26 Nosler.

There is nothing magical at less than 600 yards that makes the 6.5 PRC significantly better than the .280 Ackley or the 264 Win Mag. Even the .270 Win, .308 Win are hanging tough out to there.

Actually, most stuff with an 8” mpbr to 300+, is ‘minute of hair’ to near 400. AFTER that, is dope territory. 270, 25-06, even 243, etc can do that.

of the three choices I'd choose the 28 Nosler.

I personally shoot a 264WinMag, but my longest kill came with a 270Win at 625 yards.

I got about 1200-1300 rounds out of the last 28 Nosler barrel I was shooting. I would say barrel life is a moot point between the cartridges in question with 26 Nosler (also a round that doesn't do anything something else could not already do) has worse. I got about 900 out of a 26 Nosler barrel.

I didn't think there was anything spectacular about either cartridge but I do like the Nosler rifles I have a couple and the oldest one I have is the best of the bunch... but the newer rifles are still very nice.

With accuracy loads I was only getting about 50fps more out of the 26 Nosler shooting 140's than I was out of the 6.5 SAUM, a.k.a. 6.5 Rocket. Just cause the 26 has the ability to sling a 140 an honest 3200 doesn't mean it shoots well over 3200. I've been running 3150 with 6.5 SAUM since about 2009-2010 timeframe. I didn't really see the awesomeness. Now they have introduced the 6.5 PRC. Out of those 3 I would pick the PRC. I think the PRC cartridges are about to be the next 6.5 Creedmoor in a popularity contest... but time will tell... it's a better idea/design IMO.


With a BDC reticle in your scope you can shoot 500 yards holding on hair with any of these three caliber choices and a whole lot of others. If deer are on the menu I would shoot a 6.5 at those distances with confidence.

I know y'all want to fiddle with dialing a scope since that's what the cool kids are doing but "Just Say No" when it comes to your hunting rifles. Just try to get a little closer to your game otherwise if you can't get within 500 yards of a doe maybe Golf or Tennis are always an option.

Id go 300 win mag with a good quality high turret scope to dial in my dope over 300yards. A .308 is good out to 600yards with the right person behind the trigger possibly farther but I dont think it would be ethical to shoot at anything over 600 yards unless its shouting Allahu Akbar

We'll the deer need to be ethical and come out closer

You get what I was saying before. it's not that something else might not do the same or even better but the PRC is designed to be optimal within a certain parameter that fits a need like longer range deer. Another might be faster but burn more powder and barrels for a basically useless gain.

Either side of 100fps is a fool's errand. It goes like this.... if a .300 WBY mag isn't fast enough you can always shoot a 165 grain in a .30-378 @ 3400. And so on.

I think the PRC cartridges are going to go big. If you are looking for the latest and greatest within a balanced design, there it is IMO.

You may be right about the 6.5 PRC, and I hope you are.

That being said, I might be hesitant to buy one with only Hornady making brass and factory loads. If they stop, then you are out of luck.

You can get within a step of 3400 FPS with 165 grain bullets in a 300 Weatherby. I push 168 Barnes bullets outta mine at 3300 FPS and could get more if I wanted, just found that accuracy was good at that speed and didn't want to try for more.

Bad thing about a lot of it is cost per box of ammo . Paying 80 bucks for a box of shell is some thing I ait gonna do . I'll stick with my 7mag they about 30 a box

Do you kill deer at over 500 with those $30 a box loads?

No. They just bounce right off of them.

Sure have , with a 270 also .. in my life time I've shot all kinds and brands of ammo , I'll stay with the about 30 bucks a box for shells ..

There's no beating a nozler patrician . Imo

But dead is dead

Why I went to a 7mag . on the 270 the hide on the other side caught the bullet and blood trail was bad

http://rileman1.blogspot.com/2017/10/338-remington-ultra-magnum-86-x-70mm.html?m=1

I’m only gonna say it once....
.243.

I've just found that only my reloads are consistent enough or whatever it took to be accurate enough at longer ranges, No doubt any of those calibers with factory ammo will kill one if you hit him.

I’d go with a 30-378 weatherby, shoot a 200 grain or more and you have the answer. Maybe a 30 Nosler for seconds.

Is the Patrician a new Nozler offering? 🥴

Yes they’re in the blue box

Spell check got me on my phone . . I figure most here can figure it out ,,,, sorry !!!!

I was never that picky if I could stay on a foot x two foot target I was happy . I never worry about driving nails I just kill deer .

Horaday made a 100gr light mag that tracked right with the 7 mag . I wish I had bought 20 boxs back when. I bought my nephew a rem 243 that would shoot hole in hole at a 100 with them

.280 and a 7mm-08 can handle the job out to 400 yards, but I don't have too many opportunities to shoot that far. 140 gr accubonds