Auto 20 gauge????

Ok, I'm looking of one of the wife. Looking at a 1100, or affinity. any other choices I need to look at

1187

yea, I didn't think about them.. I always got them 1100 goggles on.

I've been impressed with Escort

Buds

You like them more than the mossberg?

I like a kick in the nutts more than Mossberg

Winchester SX3 20ga. I bought one for my wife. Then sold my Benelli 20ga because I knew I wouldn't be using it anymore. That lil Sx3 20ga is one sweet shooting shotgun and recoil is nonexistent. Seriously I've shot skeet with it using one arm. Amazing shotguns for a 20ga

The Affinity is bomb prof having fewer parts and being inertia operated. It's lighter but will have a little more recoil. My daughter that you met shot hers for doves last year without any problem with recoil on dove loads.

Sell one of those heifers and get her a Beretta A400 in 20 ga with the Kick Off

That aint happening..

I'm probably gonna buy an 1187 Compact Sportsman 20 ga with a 21" barrel and MOBU camo.

Is this going to be for the upcoming dove hunt?
Realize its not an autoloader but she is welcome to try my 870 youth in 20gauge.

Thanks man, She has one now. Can handle it good, I also have a Franchi AL-48, but its got a good kick to it. Just exploring my options

I want that 48 dw

Have you tried a Limbsaver pad on the 870 by chance?

Realize you're a ways away but The Firing Pin in Opelika has either an 1100 or 1187 20Gauge youth
Dont recall the price

Stay away from the Benelli M2's. If you ever handle one and shoot it you'll never be satisfied until you own one.

Thats what I've been told about brunette's also..

She got a home for good..

DW, if you buy a standard gun, I'd bet you'll need to chop the stock length a little for her. A shorter stock will fit her better and help it point where she's looking.

Oh yea, I got the band saw setting on go. Most 12 year olds are taller than she is..

You want an excellent value in a great gun; look for a used Beretta 303. Have seen them for less than $500. I have one of the Ducks Unlimited versions; my favorite dove field gun.

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Escort

Yep. A Beretta 20 is mighty, mighty hard to beat. The only thing I would choose over one would be a Benelli M2 (maybe), but they are lots more money than a nice, used Beretta. I'm a big, big fan of the 303's and 390's.

Benelli M2---that is all.

If I get a M2. It's gonna be a 12 guage. That would be a step behind my 1100. Be dog running jewel.

I've owned a Montefeltro, 2 M2's,and a M1 all 20ga. Out of all those Benelli's I liked the Montefeltro best. The only knock I have against the Benelli 20's are that they feel very whippy when swinging them. A lot of that is just personal feel though and up to each individual as to what they like in a bird gun. Myself I like something that balances different than how the Benelli 20ga's balance and swing. Here's a pic of the 20ga's that I finally settled on and I'd recommend any of them over the Benelli's I listed. But of course that's all personal preference bc I know Benelli makes an awesome shotgun and I still own an original SBE that'll never leave unless my boy takes it when he gets older. In order Beretta 3901 20ga, Winchester SX3 20ga, Browning Auto 5 Mag Twenty, Browning Gold 20

Montefeltro would get my vote.

Love the feel of the Montefeltro, $ just a little too much for me. I'm hoping to find a good 20 ga. to hunt dove with.

Daniel I'm real close to buying a CZ auto 20 from Buds guns in a youth model. I haven't owned one,but I can't afford the to spend the big money on a Benelli etc.

I'm in the same boat. I have been looking at them. Seem nice to me.

They're made in Turkey. Like a Yugo compared to a Cadillac when compared to a nice, used Italian made Beretta or Franchi. Both of which wouldn't be much more AT ALL compared to what that CZ would cost new. I just recently sold YEKRUT a Franchi Affinity compact for $550 and I have bought several 20 gauge Berettas (303's and 390's) for right around the same price via gunbroker and gunsamerica. Don't settle fellas...buy top quality and you'll never regret it!

X2!!!!
An extra hundred or two isn't really very much over the long run. I can buy quality and it will be worth even more than I paid in 10 years or I can buy junk that will be worth nearly nothing in 10 years.

^^^ yup what they said. Buy once cry once. Or settle and you'll think of the gun you wished you'd bought every time you pick up that other gun. I've been there before and won't let it happen again

Daniel when we come I'm bringing my son and his .20 Remington 1100LT and it has a youth stock on it. She's welcome to try it while we're there. I don't plan to sell it, but you could at least see if she likes it and look for another like it.

Thanks Robert.

Bought my wife a Tristar youth 20ga from Academy. It's a gas operated gun made in Turkey (same gun as Weatherby SA-08). It has performed flawless with a variety of all different loads. I bought it on sale for less than $300 and figured I've pissed away more on less if it turned out to be junk.

I may have gotten the only good one out there but I certainly wouldn't hesitate to buy another. Especially for a woman or child that might shoot it 100 or so times a year.

It also throws an awesome pattern with Fed #7 HW. The dang gun has a better trigger than my SBE. The chokes also interchange with Benelli.

Thanks.. Thats what I was looking for.. Price tag don't make a gun, if so the 870 and Moss. 500 down been gone..

I would humbly suggest and caution that if you decide to buy a Turkish auto, that you buy the Weatherby. To my knowledge, Weatherby is the only company that is importing parts for those guns (they're all made in the same factory in Turkey off of a Beretta gas design) and standing behind them warranty wise 100%. I wouldn't trust Mossberg International, Tristar, or any of the others to do the same. I know for a fact that Mossberg International will just tell you tough chit if their Turkish auto tears up. That, to me, is totally unacceptable if repair is required.

I'm a picking up what your putting down. Yea Cmon

I've heard a lot of good things about the Weatherby SA-08. It's the one I would buy on a low budget.

I will have to say after turkey hunting with a Stoeger for 11 years I disagree slightly. That Stoeger never failed to fire any load and I'm rough as heck on my equipment. If they made a youth 20 it would be a no brainer for me. The young man I sold it to 3 yrs ago is killing birds of all kind with it to this day. You could find me a sweet Italian 20 cheap and return the favor on that half priced Extrema I turned you on to a couple of years ago.

When I caution against the Turkish autos, I am generally speaking about the gas ones made off of the Beretta 390 gas design. I.E. the CZ, Weatherby, Tristar, and Mossberg (there might be others...not sure). The design is fantastic, but they simply have lesser quality materials vs. an Italian gun. Hence, I wouldn't be a bit scared to have one as long as the particular company importing it was standing behind it and had parts ready to fix it if something happened (given the lesser strength materials used). I know that Weatherby does so with their SA series. I also really like how they give you a pair of different gas pistons...one for light loads and one for heavy loads. Another really neat feature.

I totally agree with you on the Stoegers made in Turkey. It's a different animal as it is an inertia driven, Benelli design. Definitely cheaper materials than Franchis and Benellis but a fine shotgun nonetheless. They seem to stand behind them after import into the U.S. too. For the record, they do make a 20 gauge in the Stoeger. I think the number is M3020. I'm not sure if they make it in a youth gun though. Would be sweet if they did!

I would be honored to help you find a great deal on a Beretta 20 in a youth config. I love spending other people's money. One of my favorite past times.

The cheap guns will run fine for 99% of shooters. Most folks won't shoot enough in a lifetime to really see the difference between a cheap Turkish gun and the Italian Inertia operated auto.

"HOWEVER"

If you go to Argentina to a lodge that provided dove guns where thousands of rounds are fired every single day of hunting, all they own are Benelli auto's and a few Beretta's. They don't use any other seim guns because they simply break down too often. They shoot so much that they have two guns in the field and a guy that doesn't do anything but load the guns. The shooter might fire thousands of rounds in a single weekend. These Italian guns will take that kind of shooting for years.


So, for most folks a cheaper gun will serve them just fine, but they are not built to the same level of excellence but just for a cheaper price because of the name.

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I bought my wife the weatherby sa-08 20 and she likes it.
I also have a 11-87 20 compact that is pretty sweet.
My vote I guess would be a franchi affinity 20, my 15 yr old has one in black.

The Franchi Affinity is a unique bargain. It's made on the same assembly line as the Benelli M2's from the same quality parts. The difference being the location of the recoil spring, the stock, and the price.

The Weatherby and Remington are also good guns. The question becomes,do you need the extra longevity of the Italian assembly in a gun that might not be fired even 3000 rounds in it's life.

It is the best deal going on new/recently produced shotguns. No doubt about it. We owned one (compact) for a good while that my son killed a bunch of doves with. I eventually made him choose between it and a 26" barreled Beretta 303 that I procured at a good deal. He eventually reached the same conclusion that I did with inertia guns....they have noticeably more kick vs. a good gas gun and aren't as conducive to getting back on target after firing and also that they are SO lightweight that they are whippy when swinging them (granted our was a 24" barreled version though which adds to that dynamic) vs. the smoother swing of the heavier Beretta. If I had to choose one shotgun to do everything I do with shotguns, it would be Benelli or Franchi hands down because extra weight is OUT for me tromping through the mountains turkey hunting. However, I just can't use a gun with a regular stock while turkey hunting. I've got to have a pistol grip because my right wrist has been broken and keeping it at a weird angle while waiting on a turkey to arrive kills me. Hence, I keep a dedicated pump gun for turkey hunting and a Beretta for most of my wing shooting. It all just depends upon what the person prefers/needs. You can't go wrong with an Italian made Beretta/Benelli/Franchi though. I love em and won't ever own anything else after owning Brownings, Stoegers, Remingtons, and Mossberg autos at one time as well.

Wouldn't the wise thing to do be to take her to some gun stores and find what fits her? Being it's her gun. The reason I say this is because I brought home 3 different guns for my wife,before I finally had her go with me and let her do the choosing. Once she handled the SX3 20ga she didn't even want to look anymore. Glad she picked it myself. She's going to enjoy a gun that fits her and costs $300 a heckuva lot more than a $1500 one that don't. Me personally I'd go with a gas gun for her

She has handles a 1100 and a affinity.. Both, she shoots a 870 now.. But I completely agree with ya

If it's for a woman, you can be guaranteed, she will change her mind about which one she wants shortly after you buy and give her the one she chose!!

Did she try the Infinity compact? It has a short stock and comes with 4 spacers to adjust LOP. it also has shims to adjust cast and drop at heel.

DW,
I went through this same process last year. My wife ended up buying me an Affinity for Christmas. I just got through shooting 6 boxes of shells through it on a couple dove hunts. It handled great. I killed some turkeys this Spring with it also. That being said, you can buy the camo Stoeger for around $500. It's a fine handling gun. My cousin just bought a browning silver. I think it'd be more your style. It's got a classic look to it. All that being said, the Affinity comes in a youth model that may fit her better, and is tried and true from a lot of members on Aldeer. If price and value matter, I don't think you can beat the Stoeger.

DW look at the affinity compact. You are more than welcome to come get mine and let her try it out.

I wound up cutting the stock off my Franchi Al-48 and putting a Sims pad on the back.. Crazy I know, but that what I done

Montefeltro. You're welcome !