Price for leasing turkey rights

I was wondering what a fair price to offer 1300 acres of turkey only rights would be in central Morgan county with below average but increasing Turkey population would be. How many memberships would you look to sell or maybe a total price to try and get for that size property. Its something we are considering for our lease as we don't turkey hunt much and its a way to keep members down without raising prices.

Where is the property? That will factor in. I personally wouldn't want over 2 hunters on 1,300 acre. Well, really just me.

$1-2/acre for good turkey land. If turkey numbers are low, $0.50/acre. 2 people max on 1300 if there aren’t many turkeys. Can’t kill 8 birds off the land if they aren’t there.

Its in central morgan county. My thought was offer 2 permits.

I’d offer it at a price to an individual and let that individual decide if he wants to split it with another hunter. Ensure it’s clear that no more than 2 hunters will be allowed. Price as if you are getting two.

In other words…..ask $1300 for the turkey rights. Allow one man to split it with a friend if he wants to but you deal with one person on it.

Are you sure the property holds spring birds? Some do some don’t. If you have plenty of spring birds it’s worth money if you have a spring bird it’s peanuts.

LOL. well there aren't a lot period, though i believe there is more than one. I pulled a camera last week that had been out since deer season. it had 3 birds that were in it regular in the spring, had a group of 5-7 that I got regularly on the north part of the property during deer season and a few here and there on other parts. It wasn't long ago we had no turkey season at all where we are. In general our numbers are increasing and talk to people who see groups in the fields but I'm not going to make it out to be something its not. It wouldn't be easy hunting.

I'd be interested in it. If its not to far I'd definitely trap it hard also for the right deal

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One way to do it is to just take on another member or 2 and call it a turkey only membership. You can charge them the same dues as everyone else, or make it cheaper if that's too much. That way the turkey guy is just a member of the club and is covered by your insurance and under the same rules as everyone else.

Most of the timber companies have clauses against sub-leasing, but I've never heard of one objecting to different levels of membership. I don't see any need to change locks and such; the turkey only members are told to simply stay away during deer season and the deer hunters do the same in turkey season.

This might not work in every situation, but I've been part of several clubs who have used it and never experienced a problem with it.

I agree on the sublease, it wouldn't be that. It would just be 2 turkey memberships with similar prices as the deer. No we wouldn't change the locks as we actually only have one gate thats locked anyways because we cross another property to get to it there. We won't have someone that we can't trust as its not worth that.

One way to do the price is take the dues for a full member, divide it out by hunt daysfor deer and turkey.

Say your dues are $1,000 for a full member.

Deer = 118 days or $8.47 per hunt day.
Turkey = 44 days x $8.47= $372 just for turkey season assuming they aren't allowed at the club during deer season.

Maybe I read your post wrong, but I don't think anyone would pay dues the same as deer just to turkey hunt as their hunt days are almost 1/3 less for the same amount of money.

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I think you would be surprised just considering the folks that have touched base with me. There aren't many big tracts of land in our area so to offer 1300 acres of hunting opportunity for 2 spots will bring much more than $750. With us only going to consider 2 spots, to offer them at $377 each would give someone the ability to have a complete 1300 acres to hunt for $750 by themselves. To cut turkey hunting out for those already in the club for $750 and to take a chance on more people that may or may not be good members wouldn't be worth it in the least. If it ends up tahst what the going price would be then we will just forget about it.

Ahhh…..well there it is…reasonable price for the lease given to the man…reasonable price be damd….needin sumat deep poket crazy turkey hunter money i see…its yo property pimpit howz you see fit🇺🇸

And now you see why I did what I did. Everyone wants something for as cheap as can be. They don’t care how many roads you’ve cleared, fields you’ve planted, lines you’ve marked or fences you’ve mended. They just want to kill birds for as cheap as possible and I can’t trust people like that so I just pay it to keep anyone else off my lease. Just ain’t worth the hassle. They’ll be texting all through deer season asking how many does your going to kill and if they can get one or two to “help out”.

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Ghost Rabbit for President. He’ll show where your money’s going. Turkey rites are high. Dang weekend warriors maybe day during the week$$$$$$

I looked up Morgan County, very low harvest for turkey, 60 birds.

6 weekends if you work a 40 hr a week job , if you go to church strike Sunday morning so 9 full hunt days . $1000 dollars per day
X 9 days = $9000 sounds about right lol
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Morgan county for the most part is trash to turkey hunt
50 cents an acre is reasonable , a dollar is overpriced for the area but somebody will pay it . The 3 birds will prob get bumped while your working them by the deer hunters when they are putting out minerals and general goofin off during turkey season .

I’d just keep it as is . If yal are having a hard time paying dues or cost just add another deer member .

Exclusive rights on 1300 acer worth way more than 750

For out right one guy only membership (exclusive turkey rights) - I would start at $1800 if u got birds n spring. And that is not on the high price side. Turkey rights exclusive worth around $1-3/acer or if it unbelievable bird property - what somebody willing to pay

I said I would not pay full membership earlier for turkey - but if dues were low like 1000 or less and I was aware there were almost no turkey hunters and place had birds - I might pay full - depends on situation

LOL, if $750 is reasonable to have sole access to 1300 acres for turkey hunting then call it what you want I guess. The #'s he threw out there were based on length of season compared to deer season. As though leases and club prices are based on how many days season lasts, Alabama should have the highest deer club prices in the nation with our longer seasons. The only unreasonable idea so far would be to take away the current members ability to turkey hunt for $750. As the plan now will be for the 2 memberships given to have the only access for turkey hunting during season. I do appreciate the feedback though, its why I asked the question.




The plan as of right now will be for whoever gets it to have exclusive rights, may even restrict others from going over there during that time period other than certain situations. Not that it would be much of an issue anyways as I don't think there was maybe one or two times someone stepped foot on the property during turkey season anyways. The club right now is family and members of our church only. Its a very laidback and easy situation. We don't have to have someone else and from a deer perspective we could add members no issue as we have multiple people who would join in a heartbeat. We like to keep it as cheap as we can for those in it and just thought this might keep us from replacing a couple members who have moved or may move. We just like to keep it as simple as possible and sometimes you don't know what you'll get even when you get to hand pick them. We just thought we would kick this idea around.

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Prob not a bad idea - new faces on the deer sene can totally change the landscape - laid back is very hard to find. Drama is very common in clubs. Turkey hunter would be out of site out of mind and if u got birds - he happy. I would not go on it in turkey and turkey guy only there in turkey season

Good luck

If your within an hour of Clarke county - pm me - interested 😀

Make you some money…thats why your doin this…make as much as you possibly can…cause somebody done told you that turkey hunters got deep pokets and will pay stupid money at the shear mention of a turkey..sounds to me like you need at least two full club memberships with turkey rights only…so maybe you should just start with that as your price…how much is that..$2k…$2500?…….i mean…this is your deal…you were given a reasonable option for the area and turkey numbers…i mean…exactly how much do you need?….probly what you should have thought of before you started this thread…🤷🏻

I would pay what’s fair but I pretty sure he ain’t close to me so it don’t matter

Good luck Ghost - u fortunate to hav a good group

I guess there's one in every group. No one told me turkey hunters had deep pockets and will pay stupid money and i'm not looking for stupid money. The idea that whats being discussed in this post is anywhere near "stupid" money in what people pay to hunt is a joke. I came on here with a question of what turkey rights for a 1300 acre piece of property with below average turkey population would be worth. I didn't know I needed to lay out a page post explaining every detail of why I was considering turkey memberships and how the value of it would affect my decision on whether or not to actually go through with it. I knew very well why and how much money would make us consider it before I asked the question. What I didn't know was what the going rate for a turkey lease would be as I'm not a turkey hunter and have no experience in that area. If you don't like my response about the $750 "reasonable" offer then so be it. I don't know anyone who would turn 1300 acres over to 1 person for that price for nearly 2 months. It doesn't make sense from any angle, but if that ends up being the realistic value of the property then it will be an easy decision on our part. I didn't come on here to argue and don't care to continue on with you as its pointless and The Lords been to good to me to go on about nothing. Have a great day.

I get your point and in no way was suggesting it's only worth $750. I have no idea the cost of your lease or how much each of you pay for a full membership. I was only suggesting if you were concerned about fairness to each member, figuring out what it costs per day and then applying that evenly is about the only way in my mind everyone gets the same handshake. In the not so distant past the going rate was around .50 -$1 and acre depending on how good it was. That has about tripled in the last 10 years. I've seen it at $3 and even asking prices of $10/acre for turkey rights. I guess in the end it's worth whatever someone is willing to pay. I hope it all works out and you find some good members at the price you are looking for.

Its no problem, I understand you were just throwing something out there that you thought might work. He just kept throwing that out there is why I was referencing it. If we were just offering turkey memberships and continuing to allow deer hunters to hunt turkey also that might be fair. For what we were considering it wouldn't have been a viable option for us though.

I let my aggravation get the better of me..I apologize. Morgan county is very undesirable..very spotty populations..i know folks who hunt it..with little success..know maybe one who kills a few on different properties..it aint wht you wanna hear..an again im sorry..shouldnt have said what i said..but having been screwed in these very same situations…by the very scenarios i poked at you about..it gets touchy for me…i shouldnt have done that. But..it doesnt matter if you have 10k acres..if you dont have turkeys there….an you may have tons…but the only person who will know that is whoever is there listnin…yeah..750 would be dirt cheap for 1300acres in any county thats not morgan or marshall…but turkey land in marshall county is outrageous…cause if its somewhere here that has some..odds are there is bunches because its gonna be where there are turkeys..im sure its the same where you are…but morgans got a pretty bad history for the whole county…soo..where $750 is wayy to cheap to you..thats probly about what its worth..thats about $.57/acre..an not bad for land thats close by an has the potential for a bird or 2…but if its got a low population…an its gonna be tough hunting…i mean..can you justify more money..if its great land…1.25-2..i mean..when did this get so expensive…maybe 10 mornins..maybe 20..thatd be alot..maybe 5…if they just aint nothin there…sorry again…i mean…it has got so expensive to do anything..i hunted like 10 mornins this year..an it cost me more than i needed to spend just to get around an stay fed…bout aint fun no more…much as i hate to say..the average man aint gonna afford this much longer.

Not hijacking your thread GR, I just had to strongly agree with CC on this point and add my 2 cents.

No problem I've said stuff in aggravation before also, apology accepted. I definitely won't it to be fair to whoever gets it, I have no desire to do anyone wrong and have made it clear to whoever gets it that there isn't a lot of birds and from year to year it has changed though it is getting better every year. Up until this year we only had a 5 day season so any kind of turkey hunting was unrealistic anyways. I completely understand about things getting to expensive and the main reason we even keep this lease is we grew up around it and to have a place for kids to hunt, ride, and camp a little. I think I hunted 3-4 times on it last year. I'm content to hunt public land but its less than 20 minutes from the house and a fair price on the lease so we stay with it. For costs sake we were just trying to keep it as manageable as possible, even though we are already very fair for anything comparable. This was just a thought that we kicked around the other day, and for the right person it may be a great opportunity just to have a local place to hunt. Honestly we've had people want to get in just to be able to ride horses in the off season.

Ghost Rabbit in my personal opinion 3toe has offered some solid advice on how to put a fair price on your turkey rights for both parties. You have openly disclosed the property does not have a strong turkey population nor do you know for sure if it holds birds in the spring. In my opinion you and your group will be hard pressed to get a premium price for the rights for that reason alone. Based off your post you have a number $$ in mind that you would lease the rights for. I would start there and be prepared to negotiate if it comes to that. What someone is willing to pay may or may not be worth your time. You also have to keep in mind it's not worth it to a turkey hunter to pay X amount if the property doesn't have birds. It might be exclusive rights to 1300 acres, but you can't hunt what's not there.

For your reference, I lease exclusive turkey rights on 750 Acres in north Dallas Cty for $1500 per year. This property is a proven property and has a decent to good turkey population, so it justifies the $2 per acre price.

As you have seen, everyone has a difference of opinion on the subject. Best of luck with leasing the rights and getting the amount that makes it worthwhile.

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If u not sure on turkeys I would not pay what I said

I agree with most of what you're saying. The only advice he gave was to base a turkey membership off man days based on season length which would be 1/3 of what deer hunting would be. I just don't really see that being a good way to go about it as that # has no constant and a great variable. What a club charges per membership varies greatly on lease price per acre and desired membership. For example If we only had 4 members and they payed $3k each then a turkey membership would be $1000, on the same piece of property with 10 members and $1000 memberships it would be the $377. I do agree that we won't get a premium price and don't feel like thats the goal. While I agree that we don't have great turkey hunting you can't really compare it to an area like Dallas county where that area of the state in general has good turkey hunting. The area we are located in just doesn't have good turkey hunting in general. Its not just relative to our exact lease so its one of those things where you either get below average and take what you can get or you travel somewhere else. There isn't an exact formula to figure it out and i appreciate the response and it helps knowing what you were giving per acre, the price that would make it reasonable unto us is under $2 an acre.

Supply and demand made America, get whatever u can and don't worry bout it

Why not charge them the same amount as the other deer hunters? After all they are getting the benefit of an established hunting lease.

I grew up hunting a small lease with a few other folks. The yearly dues included deer and turkey and everyone paid the same amount regardless of if they deer or turkey hunted. One guy only turkey hunted and was only around in the spring but had just as much right to deer hunt as everyone else and vice versa.

Whether anyone on here likes it or not, turkey hunting has gotten big.