Chufas

Would yall spray these or do they look like they will be fine without spray?

They'll probably be fine without spraying but if you have the means then definitely spray them.

Also could I just spray for broad leafs since that seems to be most prevalent in the fields I checked? So I dont risk killing any with grass killer or is it not worth doing that way?

1 quart per acre of 24-D-B and 10oz per acre of clethodim takes care of all grass and broadleaf problems!

Looks to me like youve got more weeds and grass than chufa. Id spray

It looked that way so I dug up several things I thought were grass and all had a chufa attached

I think you will be real disappointed with the results if you don't spray. The weeds and grass that look insignificant right now would be all you will see in 2 months. I think you would certainly make some chufas if you didn't, but why not go ahead and do it right? You have the potential for a really good field. Good luck with it!

I agree 100%

I ordered my spray so once I spray I will post results. Have 4 1 acre fields so we will see how this goes. We have never sprayed chufa before

just because I've had cleth damage the chufas alittle i go alittle lighter than 10 oz per acre, i think it depends on how much water they get. i believe the times ive had really hot dry spells after I spray is when it seemed to damage them alittle

What he said, I'd definitely spray them, that picture shows a whole lot of problem grass and broadleaf weeds. Chufa doesn't do well with a lot of competition

Im a bammer so I'm not real smart. My patches are a half to 3/4 acre. My sprayer holds about 15 gallons. How many oz of each should I put ?

Truth

Wheres the little bird symbol everybody uses ?

I’ve never sprayed - that must be my problem. What do your spray, again!

I plan to spray 8-10 oz clethodim, 1-2 oz milestone, 1 pint surfactant per 25 gallons in the sprayer

That's a good post, and I agree that you need to be careful with Clethodim or any of the grass herbicides. I have told people that I use 10 oz, but I have seen damage at that rate. And I think you are right that it's very dependant on the amount of rain you get. I have tried 8 oz and found that it didn't do a good job of controlling the grass in some fields. I think there is a very narrow window for how much Clethodim you can safely use. The window for Milestone is much wider and you can use more of it without damage.

I don't know about everyone else, but most of the herbicide damage I get is from poor application on my part. I now use a boomless sprayer and it is real easy to overlap the spray rows and give some spots a double dose. I have started cutting limbs and wrapping toilet paper on the ends for visibility, then putting them at measured distances on each end of the field so I have a guide to keep my spray rows consistent. That takes a lot of extra work, but it's worth it.

It doesn't hurt a thing to overlap when spraying deer plots with gly, but you need to be precise with chufa spray.

Some Barners can give a straight answer.

The amount per tank is irrelevant, unless you go to wild extremes. All that matters is how much of the actual herbicide you put out per acre. Ben gave one formula using Milestone, and there are others here that use 2-4DB. Pick one and get that amount on your plot on a per acre basis. Nobody can tell you how much to put in the tank without knowing the variables, so only you can figure that.

Gotta start by figuring the exact size of your plot. Measure it and figure sq ft, then convert that to acres. Then you can multiply that number by the numbers in your formula and determine exactly how much herbicide you need on the field.

Next, you have to figure out how much herbicide your sprayer puts out. That will be determined by the sprayer and the speed that you drive. Since you are dealing with a small plot of less than an acre, you could just do a test plot. Say it is exactly a half acre - lay out a plot in a pasture that is exactly a half acre, fill your sprayer with water, then spray the water over the test plot being careful to run at the same speed you want to use to spray. Then see how much water it took and adjust the numbers to fit your recipe.

This takes a little time, but it's essential to calibrate your sprayer. Good luck

Thanks PCP

How far along should the chufas be before spraying ? Planted Sunday

Further than that.

I'm a chufa novice.
This a field that me and squeaky planted two weeks ago.
He says it isn't time to spray yet. So I'm waiting for his advice about spray and fertilize.

Right or wrong I like to try and spray any of my plots just before it looks like the weeds are about to take over the crop. If its corn or beans and you spray like that then before a new batch of weeds comes along the crop is tall enough to shade them out. Like I said not sure if that is right or wrong though. I generally do chufas about the same though.

I had a crop of Chufa fail. Is it to late to replant in the southern part of the state?

I don't think so. I believe you'd be good until early Aug.

Why would a fellow that moans and complains like a broken record about not having no turkeys, not having no poults, neighbors done killed them all, “help me state with more regulations!!”............... why go to the trouble of planting and maintaining all that chufa for the coons to eat?

Wat you talkin bout Willis ?

Good lookin field OB !

Definitely not too late to plant chufa. I'm in south Montgomery county and we always plant in July. That's normally about the time of year the afternoon thunderstorms start to crank up

The OP. He ain’t got no turkey. Just ask him. Or start a thread about seasons or populations. I can predict what he will post almost word for word.

I've sprayed mine this year 3 weeks after they came up. That was a few days late in some of the fields; weeds had gotten bigger than they should have.

I have never said my neighbors have killed a bunch of turkeys nor have we. We did have 1 gobbler most of last year and 3 hens and 1 Jake, had another gobbler and a hen show up one day but dad killed it. I planted chufas to hopefully increase the population, trapping coons as well but yeah we have seen dramatic decline in the area I hunt compared to 20 years ago. Dramatic decline on really every property I have ever hunted over the last 30 years. Glad to know people have had good success keeping a good population of turkeys! Several on this site beleive chufas and trapping have helped their populations so that's why we are trying it again. Sorry you dont like my posts about what I have seen but what I have seen is very alarming to me and if it hits your area you will be concerned to I hope.

To try to get more turkeys? We also trap coons and hogs, plant millet and sorghum, thin pines, burn pines keep hardwoods, open roads up, plant clover. Just have not found anything that helped get turkeys back yet.

What kind of acreage are you hunting Ben? Care to share aerials? It's hard for me to fathom anywhere in central al where a landowner is doing what you are doing and not having turkeys

Sure thing, own 1200acres, lease a little beside us and know the neighbors well enough that we have a good idea of what's going on on 2000+ acres. I will try to post some pics. I know of 3 other places that do the same things but on bigger 3000-5000 acres that have gone from loaded with turkeys to hardly having any. I dont personally know anyone that I hint with that has seen increased populations on places they have hunted for 10-20 yrs. This particular piece has been in my family for about 40 years.

Here you go crenshaw. Anything with Black on it is what we own. Also lease the section with no info next to the catfish ponds and own the piece across across the road from the fritz/black section. If you want to see more of it zoomed in or something let me know.

Ben, I would have thought that area was loaded with turkeys. I gotta believe that there are turkeys within drawing range and if you improve your habitat that more will come. Good luck with it.

It's funny how the guy with 1200 acres thinks his place is small because someone else owns 3000-5000 acres

It was loaded with them 20 years ago. Steady decline to where we dont even see tracks most of the year now. Had the largest group of hens we have seen in 10 years there last winter come through for a few weeks so hopefully they had babies and will begin to re populate.

No sir I did not say 1200 was small I said 3000-5000 was large
The best turkey hunting we ever had was on a spot that was 260. It would hold 10 gobblers a spring on average but even with chufas planted they all disappeared on that piece as well so we eventually sold it

I would have too. Sure looks good by the pics.

I planted this little patch on 6/5, the day before it started raining. I sprayed it on 6/28 at a rate of 1 oz Milestone and 10 oz Clethodim. It seemed to zap every blade of grass, but the morning glories were only damaged. After a week, it looked like they were going to really compete with the chufas in some sections of the field, so I sprayed them again on 7/10 using just Milestone at 2 oz per acre. I should have just used that rate in the beginning, as the morning glories are the biggest weed problem in the field.

The only thing competing with the chufa now is carpetweed. I have not found a herbicide that does a good job of controlling it without damaging the chufas. Has anyone? One thing about carpetweed is that it doesn't seem to outcompete the chufas and they will still make ok with it as an understory. But I'm sure they take up nutrients and lower the yield. You get rid of one weed and create ideal conditions for another to replace it.

Those look good! ^^^^