With the season so close ...

Anyone seeing any turkey scrapes yet? Big scrapes don't always indicate a big gobbler, but they should be showing up soon.

I saw a couple small ones Sunday, but no PBT scrapes. I think the weather has them messed up

It's definitely causing some problems with the cold nighttime lows and weird barometric pressures.

I just don't think imma go until the PBT start tearin up the woods scraping...not worth it to me...

I found some huge ruts where my PBT's wallered out a spot to sleep overnight... Still had some feathers in the crater where he slept... Those Boar Toms can really tear up the woods...

Anybody know when PBT rut is on in central bama?

Found three scrapes Saturday with hen droppings in them, also found a couple of Brand new spur rubs. I think the timing will be just right here in NW Bama.

What trees do turkeys prefer to make their spur rubs on? I think I will plant lots of them in the future.

Also, I'm out of touch with the new parlence. PBT? I'm guessing (?)-Boar-Tom?

I made some mock rubs and scrapes with the glands off a turkey I killed a few years ago. It drives the PBT's nuts.

You won't find much scraping if your sex ratio is out of whack. You need to lay it to the hens and let those 2 year old gobblers walk.

Pig Boar Tom = PBT
Re: tree, well... Any ole tree'll do, so long as you pour chlorox on a pine stump next to it... Once they catch a good whiff of that chlorox wafting thru the woods, they'll rip hell outta any tree next to it...

If you put out enough clorox stumps in the spring, you may wind up with a few white-ish color phase birds then next couple of years. Can make for some nice trophies.

Or multiple beards, ya ... Either way, super cool!!

Great advice here. Think we'll be taking out a few hens early season to try to get our numbers where they need to be.

I've been making mock scrapes and dabbing roost limbs to establish a PBT sanctuary. Should be ready for the opener.

Y'all gonna have the woods stunk up so bad stomping around in there you ain't gonna have nothing but squealers and goblets walking in the daylight.

The birds most of the places I hunt have pretty much all gone nocturnal. Only chance at killing one is when they head back to their sanctuary to bed down for the day.

Hell, the birds on my place have done all shed their beards & spurs & most have dropped their fans... Hard to tell hens from PBT's, but ... hoping the rut gets 'em all stinky so we can smell the difference!

I've found that most our turkeys feed most on nights with a full moon so I've covered to the tops of several acres of oaks with landscape fabric to keep the light out... I figure the sunlight can still get through and should help em move more during daylight hours. Only downside, found a nice cowhorn jake strangled in the fabric... think he tried to chase a buzzard that was flying on other side of the fabric. Young ones will try to breed anything during the rut.

Yelp is right, definitely let the young ones walk so we can get those big PBTs and mature toms to help the herd.


Also, don't forget to put in fresh batteries and SD cards in all of your sanctuary cameras.

I found a bobcat that had been killed by a PBT..The cat was full of spur holes and had a J turd laying on his head. I hope to catch up with that one this year.

If you hadn't been piddling, you probably wouldn't have found that cat or PBT sign... just shows it pays to piddle

Yeah, the other night, I was listening from my front porch & heard 3-4 PBT's around 8pm or so howling like they'd killed a cow or something... A pack of PBT's can cause all sorts of havoc... I'm scared now to go PBT hunting w/out a pistol or some sort of side-arm like The Judge...

I haven't been able to find any rattling Spurs, and what's the best time to rattle them? Will it scare away Jakes and ensure I only call in PBT's?

You better get some souped-up super duper kill 'em DRT at 132 yards TSS-style SuperShotSupremeMagKiller loads for that Judge for any CQB situations with a PBT.

10-4 good buddy!!! I'll get on that today! God, those PBT's sound spooky when they get to howlin' like that...

I might've over-done my chlorox stumps, I dunno... Scared to go into the woods now...

Every dam one of y'all are full of chit. Anybody who has ever spent time in the turkey woods knows the PBT only mark their territories by chitting from the roost limb and having it splatter all over everything under the tree. I've seen it with my own 2 eyes.

I believe the Chlorox stumps can have a detrimental effect on the adipose vomeronasal gland releases of PBTs when they're in the rut, thus negating the effectiveness of their genetic dispersal among the sub-classes of recruiting poults. Have to be careful with those stumps in spring.

Crap!! I forgot to read PCP's dissertation on that!!

Im dieing over here. But PBT's are the reason people dont turkey hunt on horse back anymore. Too many horses killed by aggressive birds.

I'm going to the next CAB meeting and ask for centerfire rifles to be legalized for turkeys. I'm tired of watching those old PBTs out in the middle of a pasture all season. We ought to make hunting as easy as possible.

They will only spur a full bloomed dogwood.

In Alabama they bloom in February in most parts of the state.

I've got some late blooming saplings I will sell for a hundred bucks
each. Late bloomers are the only way you will have fresh rubs during
turkey season.

Wish you were closer.

It's a sanctuary

Whew, can't hide money!

Only 2 year olds are doing the scraping and gobbling now. And we don't want him...he's just a two year old.

Dr. B

What? How did I get dragged into this silly thread? All my research is scientific and Yahoo focused. I hunt turkeys for fun, and to feed my starving family.

What, there's not an accredited course on turkeys, Clorox stumps and such at Outback University?

How many trees do you have left? I will take them all.

I guess there's lots of misunderstanding about higher education in Alabama.

You see, the premier school in the state is PCP University. Outback University is a fine school too, but a totally separate entity. OU was recently accredited by PCPACS - the PCP Association of Colleges and Schools. Although faculty members of PCPU are involved with PCPACS, it is also something separate from the university.

PCPU does offer a Wildlife Management degree, but the curriculum is rigorous and students won't have time for any turkey hunting. They might be assigned to listen for turkeys and report back to the Chancellor, but they will never have a gun. Please contact us if you are interested in pursuing a degree, or doing a Yahoo research weekend. Tuition is very reasonable.

I hope this clears up the confusion.

Sorry, but I just sold out.

A guy from North Alabama bought the last 100 I had in stock.

Not sure what out birds are doing now cause I dont want to push/bump/educate a BT or a PBT. Best advice is stay out of the woods until the opener!

Better use a good constructed bullet like a Barnes or a Partition if you're after an old PBT. Ballistic tips ain't gonna cut it especially if you hit bone

Yep. I need something that will leave a good blood trail so I don't have to call in a tracking dog. I bet those PBTs will circle back on their trail. A hound is no match for a wounded turkey.

Pig Boar Tom.
I thought y'all were talking about Prime Boss Turkeys.

PBT (Pure Bull Topic)

Went to the property yesterday and there was a nice boar out in a pasture. He looked like a little bear cub out there at about a 1000 yards with his hens. Whild bill and I are headed to Venice this weekend to get on some butterball sow yellowfin so we're gonna miss the youth opener

Who are y'all fishing with? Went went a couple weeks ago and slayed em with VooDoo Charters. I got a thread in the fishing forum about my trip

Mexican gulf fishing company, they have a few freeman cats. Seas have been horrible the past few weeks, but supposed to be 1 to 2 Friday. Very fortunate. I'll check out the thread

Dayum, that looks like a hell of a trip!! Hopefully we get into em, will post pics

Where's the best place to place the salt licks for turkey? Probably next to the dogwoods that they make their spur rubs on?

Simple.... we don't necessarily look for dogwoods as I don't think turkeys actually rub them, lol. But on our salt licks we generally place them in an area where we can effectively roll them down a hill so as to have minimal impact on our sanctuary habitat

Y'all been doing it all wrong.

Ya got's to lure them hungry PBT's in with a feeding call. Personally, I've been using my secret weapon fer years and will now share it with you.

I present to you, "The Cricket Call" with chrirping stick.

EDIT: Instructional video for the beginners

Gobbler oaks of course!

Funny you mention the cricket call, we've been toying with the idea for years but finally jumped on ebay and ordered a box of 10,000 crickets we will be deploying next week on a particular greenfield we have near our northwest property line. We think neighbor is crack Corning em, so if he wants a war he's gonna get one. Plus we think he's a meth addict

Dern Bucky, thems craw daddy's look spicy! Looks like yall got some nice juvenile tunas. We told our captain we want to target PBST (Pig Boar Sow Tuna) so we may not get your numbers, but hopefully we can flirt with a state record, our main goal. We have spoken with the captain about using our ideas and going non traditional on this trip and he is willing to let us call the shots. Hopefully we can get the big bite started.

That's awesome. I have joked for a while with my hunting buddy that I was going sweet talk 'em in like the Pied Piper with cricket chirps. Looking forward to hearing more about your experiment!

BamaJ, thanks buddy we will definitely report back. Our only concern is that our neighbor, in spite of his methy ways, is actually a dern good greenfield planter. So we are worried that our crickets will hop over to his better looking fields to forage. Whildbill suggested a silt fence of some sort that's high enough that they can't hop over, but seems like a lot of work. That bastage of a neighbor had the gall to leave an empty bag of milo right about the spot that we would build the fence.