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Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow

Posted By: M48scout

Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 07:04 PM

Just bought a new bow ... 8 shots in, the Ripcord rest failed. Evidently not falling away right. Is this a common problem?

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Posted By: sluggun

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 07:21 PM

The timing is not right. Meaning the string that triggers the rest is not tight enough or to tight . When you draw back you should see the rest pick up just a little right at the end of the draw cycle. If it picks up to soon it will not be out of the way when the fletchings get there. If it's not picking up at all then the rest is not set to drop causing the fletchings to hit. Either way you're gonna need a new launcher arm.
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by sluggun
The timing is not right. Meaning the string that triggers the rest is not tight enough or to tight . When you draw back you should see the rest pick up just a little right at the end of the draw cycle. If it picks up to soon it will not be out of the way when the fletchings get there. If it's not picking up at all then the rest is not set to drop causing the fletchings to hit. Either way you're gonna need a new launcher arm.


Thanks sluggun. This is the rest that came with the bow new, so hopefully they will cover it under warranty and it won't be an ordeal to get repaired.

BTW this is the Bowtech Carbon Icon DLX model.
Posted By: BCLC

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 07:48 PM

I agree with sluggun. That rest definitely wasn't timed right. It's also clamped into the cable at the wrong place. It should've been much lower on the cable, usually somewhere around the bottom of the grip is a good place to start. Side note: using a press to split cable and tie in the rest cord is a better option than the football clamp.
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 08:10 PM

Thanks BCLC. That's good input for me (I'm new to bows). The way you see it was the way I saw them pull it out of the plastic bag from the box, so I'm assuming it came from the factory that way. Hopefully the shop will work with me on this since it failed the first time out I shot it.
Posted By: Shaw

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 08:11 PM

Yep, whoever set the bow up failed, not the rest. The launcher just needs to be replaced and then timed correctly. Ripcord will make good on the launcher.
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 08:16 PM

And aside from the disappointment of this rest failing .... here's something positive ... a pic of my new bow. As long as I can get the rest up and running I'll be happy with it. Decent package components (Ripcord rest, Tightspot quiver, Black Gold sight, Octane stab) Very light (bare bow 3.2 lbs) and seems to be hard hitting at the 71lb/29" draw setting it's on now. Pulling arrows out of the target is certainly a chore

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Posted By: sluggun

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 08:43 PM

I bet you wasn't hitting worth a damn though. Check your fletchings and make sure you didn't loosen any of them.
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 08:49 PM

Oh, it was frustrating! I was trying to sight in at 20 and it was hitting very low. Moved the sight body almost all the way down off the dovetail, and it was still low. Moved the 20 pin down into the lower half of the sight body and that's when it broke. I just now noticed a handful of the arrows have red stripes on two vanes and 3 of the arrows have loose vanes.
Posted By: BCLC

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by M48scout
Pulling arrows out of the target is certainly a chore


If it's a Reinhardt style hard foam/rubber target and carbon arrows I like to rub a bar of plain ivory soap on the last 10-12in of arrow. Makes pulling from stiff targets super easy thumbup

Nice looking rig, good luck with it
Posted By: mauvilla

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 09:07 PM

Did you set it up or Marks outdoors?
Posted By: sluggun

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by M48scout
Oh, it was frustrating! I was trying to sight in at 20 and it was hitting very low. Moved the sight body almost all the way down off the dovetail, and it was still low. Moved the 20 pin down into the lower half of the sight body and that's when it broke. I just now noticed a handful of the arrows have red stripes on two vanes and 3 of the arrows have loose vanes.


Take the arrows back with the bow and make them fix them also.
Posted By: sluggun

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 09:27 PM

It's hard to tell in those pictures but the arrow rest should be set to where the arrow is center of the berger hole on the riser. Doesn't look like it is but it's hard to tell from the picture. Those package bows a lot of times come with accessories just thrown on and you need a good bow tech making sure it's tuned and everything is tight before you leave the store with it. As others have said get rid of the black ball and run the rest string through the bus cable. Also tie a serving above it so that it can't slide up the cable over time.
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/04/18 11:43 PM

10-4. I just got the bow out to check it. It's actually pretty close or exactly at the Berger holes in the "thumb cocked position". I now notice that the rest does not move positions when at full draw which I guess it's supposed to if the cord is properly positioned. So, when they fix the rest I'll also make note of any change in arrow elevation once the rest is in the true ready-to-fire position. I'm also going to ask them about checking the nock position to see if it's exactly where it's supposed to be.

Thanks for the tips as I'm completely new to this stuff. Maybe I can get it tuned up by Fall haha
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/05/18 01:06 AM

Originally Posted by BCLC
Originally Posted by M48scout
Pulling arrows out of the target is certainly a chore


If it's a Reinhardt style hard foam/rubber target and carbon arrows I like to rub a bar of plain ivory soap on the last 10-12in of arrow. Makes pulling from stiff targets super easy thumbup

Nice looking rig, good luck with it


Thanks for the tip, I’ll do that
Posted By: kodiak06

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/05/18 02:52 AM

I'm guessing the rest not hitting that rubber but, peel it off. Also, you'll like the bow, I have an icon and it shoots well. I'm getting pass throughs on elk so, you ill wax a seers hiney.
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/05/18 06:14 PM

Bow is fixed! It was exactly what y’all said. The football thing was loose, you could slide it by fingers up and down the string. It came from factory like that. It’s properly attached through the cable itself now, and I have a new launcher arm. Bow groups much better now, haha. Quieter too, ha
Posted By: kodiak06

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/05/18 07:18 PM

Glad it was so simple. You need to add a piece of serving above the "football" and it will not slide.
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/05/18 10:06 PM

It’s actually inserted through the cable itself with serving to hold it now. No football.
Posted By: kodiak06

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/05/18 11:05 PM

roger
Posted By: sluggun

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/06/18 12:13 AM

It would be a good idea to check all the screws on the rest and sight just to be sure that there are no more surprises
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/06/18 01:15 AM

Originally Posted by sluggun
It would be a good idea to check all the screws on the rest and sight just to be sure that there are no more surprises


That’s a good point. I’ll do that tonight.

Another thing that seems weird to me. For a 20yd zero I had to move the sight body almost all the way down till no more adjustment room on the dovetail. The pins are all grouped into the lower half of the sight circle including the 20yd pin. Is that normal? When I shot a 20 yard group it seemed to tighten considerably from what it was doing before (Now 3” groups or so discounting bonehead flyers that I call).
Posted By: Shaw

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/06/18 01:23 AM

Was the peep height set for you?
Posted By: sluggun

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/06/18 01:57 AM

Originally Posted by Shaw
Was the peep height set for you?



This. Peep height is most likely not right. Draw the bow with your eyes closed and get to your comfortable anchor point. Now open your eyes and you should be looking through the peep. If you have to adjust any to see through the peep then it's not right.
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/06/18 02:19 AM

Originally Posted by Shaw
Was the peep height set for you?


Ahh. That’s probably it. It was set for me, I shot a couple times and the first few I knew it was wrong, so asked them to adjust. I drew and they moved it till I told them I was comfortable. So, it feels OK to me now just not knowing any better. It’s served in and everything now so it may not be able to be adjusted (?). Or maybe it’s right and I’m just built weird.

Next time I shoot I’ll do the eyes closed test and see. Thanks
Posted By: Strictlybow

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/06/18 02:21 AM

Also check to see if your sight is bolted on the riser with the correct holes. Some have a high set and a low set of holes for extra adjustment.
Posted By: sluggun

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/06/18 02:38 AM

Originally Posted by Strictlybow
Also check to see if your sight is bolted on the riser with the correct holes. Some have a high set and a low set of holes for extra adjustment.


I started to tell you this but from the pictures it doesn't look like that bowtech has a second set of mounting holes.
Posted By: El_Matador

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/07/18 01:04 AM

Once you get this thing set up, you’re gonna love it. I bought this same bow this past July. It is a beast. Perfect pass through on a good mule deer at 35 yards. At 60 yards I group about a softball which isn’t great, but it is good enough for me. I’m happy with it.

The bow I had before was set up for someone a little shorter than me and the peep was off. I had to take it to someone to have it fixed. Made a world of difference.
Posted By: M48scout

Re: Ripcord Rest Fail on my new bow - 03/07/18 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by El_Matador
Once you get this thing set up, you’re gonna love it. I bought this same bow this past July. It is a beast. Perfect pass through on a good mule deer at 35 yards. At 60 yards I group about a softball which isn’t great, but it is good enough for me. I’m happy with it.

The bow I had before was set up for someone a little shorter than me and the peep was off. I had to take it to someone to have it fixed. Made a world of difference.


That’s good to hear Matador. I’m excited about this season once I get it all figured out
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