question for the single pin adjustable users

Just curious why you choose a single pin over a multi-pin adjustable sight?

Sight picture...A single pin doesn't obstruct your view as much as multi pins. Its easier to be able to just move one pin to any yardage as well. In the heat of the moment you can't make a mistake and shoot the wrong pin.

I've always been a 3 pin sight guy. I still like them alot. I went to the single pin because I was gonna change to a brighter sight anyway. Also, most of my shots are 30 yds or less. I can set my dial on 30 yds and not have to fool with it. The 3 pin is handier to me for quick long shoots or deer walking or bouncing out a few yards while at full draw.

Sight picture. No need for multiple pins with today's bows.

Next question... Your game is at 24yds, you draw and spook animal. He goes to 40yds and you make a noise and stop him, one small opening to shoot, what's your next move with the single pin sight?

If the animal moves 10 or 15yds, wouldn't you now have the wrong pin?

Reason I bought this up is, I was trying to talk myself into a single pin and can't do it. Here's my scenario from this past elk season. After an hour plus stalk on a bull to around 25yds, I released and clipped a limb, MISSED. Bull ran and I cow called him stopped about 40yds and then laced him. I was using a 4 pin fixed sight. I don't think I would have killed that bull with a single pin. I am however, considering a 3-4 pin adjustable. Just need to do more research.

I switched to single pin this year with a tremendous amount of hesitation. However, throughout the summer as I was practicing, I was able to shoot out 40 yds easily without making any adjustments. I keep mine set on 27 yd and can shoot out to 33 by holding dead on. Anything over that, I would need to compensate some. I have been more than pleased with my purchase and will continue using single pin for quite some time. In your situation, the worst thing that could happen is that you purchase one and not like it and turn around and sell it here fairly quick!! Good luck with your decision.

Yep. If you buy a HHA sight and don't like it, you won't have any problems selling it.

I honestly do not think I'll go single. The method I use on elk 99% of the time is run and gun and then stalk. Seems like too many variables could happen if I restrict my self. I think a 3 pin adjustable could benefit though.

I know my bow pretty well, I can Kentucky windage a shot from 24 yards to 40.
It is not the end all be all, just whatever toots your horn

I do like my HHA single pin very well. I shot this afternoon in the back yard and I always say I should have gotten his sooner

You practice and learn your bow. I agree, you won't having problems selling an HHA.

Aim for the top of the lungs. I've done it numerous times (not because I spooked them) and that's with a bow shooting 255 to 260fps.

This is where practice comes into play more than anything and knowing what your bow is capable of. A difference of 16 yards isn't a huge amount when your talking 24-40 yards. I know with a single pin that I can aim about 6-8in high and center punch him everytime right there. It isn't about having the wrong pin. You only have one pin so it wont be the wrong pin. just know what your bow is capable of and you don't have anything to worry about. Don't have 5 pins in the way either. It makes a big difference for me shooting in low light.

I see where you guys are coming from with the single pin but, elk hunting is a lot different than hunting whitetails out of a tree. I've had bulls at 10yds break and run from catching scent only to cow call and stop them at 40-60yds. That's my biggest problem trying to talk myself into a single pin. Too many times weird things happen hunting the elk rut.

Had a bull at 20yds waiting on a shot 2 years ago when a cow stood up about 10yds from me and gave me a bark from hell. Rattled my chest, lol. Stopped the bull at 40ish when I cow called but, no shot. Check it out, this is a video I found of one barking on YouTube, not our hunt.

No one has said this yet but it comes to mind for me. Though I have never been elk hunting, I would think the shear size of the animal would easily allow you to Kentucky windage one. I mean from spine to bottom of chest has to be quite big.

^^^Yep^^^

Very big vitals... Problem is the difference in high/low shots vs right in the boiler. You don't want to hit one bad, I've tracked a few that people shot and it turned out bad for all of them. The elk wounds close easily too. First bull I shot bled like a dig dog for 100yds or so and then went to a tiny drop every 20-40yds down a gravel road. Even double lunged, he made it about 600yds. Only other animal I've hunted that seemed as tough as elk was Mt Goats. 2nd bull I killed went about 60yds, very little blood as well. #3 was quartering away and bled well the whole time.

Elk hunting is a different game I'll give you that. But I would still like to believe that if my floater was on 40. I could adjust up and hit vitals at 60.. I would think that comes down to you and your bow and how much you practice things like that

You can but, don't think for a minute that all the shots are in open country. Coastal Oregon has some jungles. Had a bull 3 years ago at 10yds and could only see his antler tips.

I set my pin for my max yardage for my setup. It's easier for me to judge deer at close yardage verses at farther ranges. That why I set my dial for the longest range of my setup on that hunt.

I wish we could do that here. I guess we could if we were trail hunting. I prefer the run and gun method of elk hunting. I typically glass, find the bull, and get after it. About the only time me or me and a hunting partner have an actual set-up is if we're doing some blind calling in the middle of the day. You guys should try elk hunting during the rut somewhere. It's a friggin blast to have one bugling and at times sound like a train coming to your calls. With that said, they can also be as quiet as a whitetail coming in as well.

I've been once before. I would love to go back.
Here's what I would do, if I were to go back. I would set my pin at 40 yds while walking around. When I struck one and worked in to start calling, I would take a couple ranges to see if I needed to adjust my sight.

With my bow's speed, 327 FPS chronographed, I was able to set my sight at 35 yds and have no more than a 4" variance from the point of aim out to 45 yards. For elk, this is more than close enough to be in vitals if if aiming center mass. If I knew my shot had just extended to 45 yards, aiming top of the vitals would be fine. Sight Picture is clearer for low light conditions.

If I'm going to take a shot over 45, Then I want a calm animal and an accurate yardage, the risk of wounding is too great at those distances to not commit to having the above two criteria.

Another question for the single users... How confident are you in the quality of your sight being strapped to a pack for 2 to 18 miles of hiking and biking on a daily basis? Talking realiability

It's hard putting that many miles on your body and not trusting your gear. that's why I've stuck with a fixed rest. I will try a drop away though this year. Just debating on the sight switch now.

Big difference sitting in timber in a fixed position vs shots from 10 to 60, 70yrs.. Not that I would shoot one at 70

I tried the single pin thing for one season and went back to my multi pin sight. I didn't like having to adjust the pin all the time. Also I hunt the woods more than I do on open fields. On a 40+ yd shot in the thick stuff if there is a limb at 20 yds that would affect my shot, with a multi pin sight all I have to do is look at the 20 yd pin. If it is close to that limb the arrow will most likely hit it. Some people love the single pin. Some don't. You'll just have to try it to see if it is for you. This is what I am currently using. Pins set at 20, 30, 40, 45, 50, and 55 yds.

The HHA's are pretty damn durable.

Single pin , after a day's practice you will run over your multi pin sight with your truck.

You must have x rAy vision to see through all that . Lol . I get to much blur in low light if I try that setup .