long bow and arrow spine

I recently. picked up a Montana long 55 lb at 28 . I draw 30" and checked it on the scale today and it's right around 60 lb at my draw length. what's arrow combo would yall suggest ?

you draw 30" with a compound or with that longbow??? Makes a difference.

prolly use a 55/75 God Tip. You will have to try varying lengths and weights to get it tuned...

I've been thinking about getting a 45# Montana. How do you like yours?

Sonny, have you looked at any of the R/D longbows???

The Montana is a slight r/d design, not a straight longbow.


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Somewhere around a 350-400 spine. Start full length and cut 1/2" at a time from the knock end on a bareshaft to tune.

I would suggest the Carbon express 350 Heritage shafts full length. Possibly a 165 head.

its 30 in traditional equipment . I draw 31 on a compound. shaw I made a big jump from a 45 lb recurve to a 60 lb long bow . it was odd at first with a lot of hand shock . but after some tuning it's much better and I now believe I prefer the long bow. honestly ppl had me scared to death of draw weight on traditional. 60 pounds isn't bad for me. of course I am no little fellow but still I was surprised at how well I could draw and hold 60lbs. with that being said I think a 45lb would have been even more fun to shoot. but it is what it is. I may trade it for a lighter poundage some day.

have you looked at the FMJ's,I shoot those out of all 5 of my bows,and my bighorn is 69# at my draw length,and my custom long bow is 59.I shoot 500 spine in my 55 pound bows,and 400 spine out of my bighorn,and long bow.It takes a little time to get them tuned,I just added some weight to the of mine until I got the flight I wanted.

thanks . I have some 500 gt heavy hunters and some 400 heavy hunters

My Bushmen is a R/D. I've shooting it the past few evenings after work. I got the 3555 Gold Tips tuned and flyin pretty damn good out of it. They wound up 28.5" long. I've got the 100gr. inserts and using a 175gr. point. The total weight is around 515gr. I can keep a 3 arrow group in the vitals on a deer target consistently from 15 yards. Still working on those 20 yard groups. My goal is to get consistent out to 25 yards so I can get that first kill with a trad bow this season.

Been looking at some other bows. I would love to get one that pulls around 42 to 43# at 26". I really like the look of the Big Jim Thunder Child. But they are hard to come by and pricey.

shaw are you a right or left hand shooter ?

I want to get me a 40 or 45 lb bow for shooting tournament. Them things are a blast to shoot. I believe I'm gonna go with Northern Mist. I really like their bows.

Right handed.

I am a lefty. I was going to say you could try out this montana I got before you buy one.

Hey brother,If you are interested in an affordable custom built long bow,I highly recommend Bama Bows,or Lost creek long bows,both Nate,and Chad are top notch guy's and build a heck of a bow for a fraction of the cost of the other high end bow builders.

thanks

Here's my Bushmen M5 American Native:





It has double string grooves. The outer grooves are for stringing the bow.





Here's my first 15 yard group this evening. Don't laugh at my ancient wore out target. I haven't drug out my good deer target yet.





When I step back to 20 yards I can go 2 for 3 most of the time but never 3 for 3. One positive note, when I shoot a 3 arrow group from 20 yards, my first arrow is nearly always in the kill zone.

nothing wrong with that group, but I thought that was a stump at first!!!!

nice

Just pulled the trigger on this one:






It's a JK Traditions Kanati 58" 45#@28".

nice, so yer pulling about 26#??????

Not 26#. It's 26". Your dementia is acting up again.

I don't have dementia...what were we talking about????

Wife shoots a longbow, rated 50#@28, she's shooting about 42# at her draw.

That IS a good looking bow...

As far as draw weight on a long bow compared to a recurve. Is it easier to pull a long bow

I don't know that I would agree with that statement. What's your reasoning behind it?

To answer your question,I can't tell a difference as far as the weight goes,but the shorter recurve bows is a little harder to get used to because of the drastic angle of the string.Also the longer bows are more forgiving.I can also tell you that the straight limb Hill style bows tend to have more hand shock than the newer hybrid R/D bows and are some what slower.I hope this helps.

Yea, string angle can cause a different feel changing the leverage. I guess my question was meant to provoke thought and discussion more than anything.

The lines of longbow and recurve are drastically blurred. We have extreme RD 54" longbows and I shoot a 70" recurve. I was just interested in why someone thought a longbow of the same weight might feel easier to draw than a recurve. String angle and draw force curve was my only guesses but that would depend solely on the particular bow.

Couple of 20 yard groups from this evening. I'm getting there.

I shot these groups split finger. Looks like I'm going to have to ditch the 3 under. Shooting 3 under I'm deadly out to 15 yards. My accuracy goes to crap past that.

It's not just the three under that's the problem. Shoot whichever way you prefer but the inconsistency isn't just from 3 under. I have no good idea of what it is without seeing you shoot but the only reason I shoot 3 under is that it makes my gap a lot smaller and easier to estimate sight picture.

Sonny, try split finger with a high anchor point. I anchor ring finger to corner of my mouth, gets the arra a lil higher, but not as high as three under.

That was a question, not a statement

The first couple of groups I shot split finger I was hitting higher. After I got used to it I tried a few shots 3 under again and was hitting low. Go figure.

Sorry friend.
It all depends on the bow. If the limbs are designed in such a way that they unfold and give a shallower string angle then the increase of pounds per inch is generally less. This causes the bow to feel lighter and smoother. IE, a bow that increases 2 lbs per inch the last few inches of draw will feel better than one that increases 4 lbs per inch.

Also one that has less initial draw weight will feel lighter but won't be quite as fast as one that starts with a higher draw weight.

As I mentioned in my other post, there are so many different lengths and variations of design in both longbow and recurve that it is difficult to say any one will feel lighter or smoother than the other. Also how a particular design feels depends a lot on your draw length.

That's exactly why I shoot three under. It is all about the sight picture. I don't use my arrow tip as a sight or try to put my point on anything as an aiming point. When I use 3 under though I can see my arrow tip on my peripheral vision. With split that point is somewhere on the ground half way to the target. With 3 under that tip is a lot closer to the target it'self, usually just under it. When my arrow tip is closer to the aiming point, it is a lot easier to align it left and right or guess the right hold over or under.

I don't consciously place the tip anywhere or even think about it at the shot but it just makes a repeatable sight picture easier to maintain.